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    Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Here is what he said to get elected.

    MANCHESTER, N.H., Aug. 14 -- Drawing a sharp contrast with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, his main rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama said in an interview that he has the capacity she may lack to unify the country and move it out of what he called "ideological gridlock." "I think it is fair to say that I believe I can bring the country together more effectively than she can," Obama said. "I will add, by the way, that is not entirely a problem of her making. Some of those battles in the '90s that she went through were the result of some pretty unfair attacks on the Clintons. But that history exists, and so, yes, I believe I can bring the country together in a way she cannot do. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't be running."

    Here is what he says now.

    "The question is not whether we need to act. The overwhelming judgment of science, of chemistry and physics and millions of measurements, has put all that to rest,” Obama said in a major policy address at Georgetown University. “So the question now is whether we will have the courage to act before it's too late.” He later added, addressing those who deny climate change science: “We don’t have time for a meeting of the flat-earth society.”

    So you tell me, uniter or divider.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Divider

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    I don't think he is doing either. He is largely relegated to being administrator in chief. I don't see him as having the political power or influence to unite or divide. All he does is try to create photo ops for the mythology that will follow his Presidency.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    I think he's tried. Nearly all of the polarization we've seen since his election is actually a result of the highly skilled propagandists in the conservative media who work full time to divide America then blame him for it. And people actually fall for it, something I think is one of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed.
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I think he's tried. Nearly all of the polarization we've seen since his election is actually a result of the highly skilled propagandists in the conservative media who work full time to divide America then blame him for it. And people actually fall for it, something I think is one of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed.
    Odd theory considering that the vast majority of the media is not conservative. What is overlooked by many is that all of our congress critters (in both parties) are not ever talking about changing priorities, as in stop that and do this instead, but simply trying to add more things to the role of the federal gov't. This obviously is not under the direct control of the POTUS but the recent (last decade) 25% increase in federal spending relative to GDP indicates that problems are not due to too little federal spending.

    U.S. Fed Govt Budget as % of GDP Over Time - Supporting Evidence
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Well, there is no option there that I could use. Obama is neither uniting or dividing the USA. Partisan politics is what is dividing the USA, Obama is part of that but not the main factor, Republicans have just as big a role (if not bigger) by their refusal to even think about ending their obstructive partisan war on the American people.
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Like most people I have ever met Obama wants to unite people by forcing them to agree with him.
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Tune in to am radio for a half hour, and take in all the demagoguery about liberals being the enemies of America.

    That is dividing America.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Odd theory considering that the vast majority of the media is not conservative. What is overlooked by many is that all of our congress critters (in both parties) are not ever talking about changing priorities, as in stop that and do this instead, but simply trying to add more things to the role of the federal gov't. This obviously is not under the direct control of the POTUS but the recent (last decade) 25% increase in federal spending relative to GDP indicates that problems are not due to too little federal spending.

    U.S. Fed Govt Budget as % of GDP Over Time - Supporting Evidence
    Your comment about spending vs GDP ignores the lag in GDP growth caused by the last recession not to mention the poor growth during the 8 years of Bush. Sadly our population growth and resulting spending needs are not determined by GDP. That and the baby boomers retiring have contributed to the higher % you equate to "big spending".

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    in an environment this politically charged, no president has much of a chance to unite. i think both Bush and Obama tried, as did Clinton. eventually, though, it got so ugly that they basically said **** this. pretty much the only hope for uniting the country is uniting partisans on both sides in opposition of the sitting president. that happened under Bush in the second term, and the same is beginning to happen to Obama.

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