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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Said quote requires significant assumptions to suggest he's labeling "half of america" as that...similar type of assumptions people use to suggest that George Bush stated that anyone who disagreed with his stance on the War on Terror was "against [america]". Similarly, suggesting that "half of america's" views on things are "much that isn't so" is hardly a grant instance of united as opposed to insulting either.
    Obama's quote was directed against Americans who disagree with his stance on AGW an the term "flat earth society" can be considered nothing other than an insulting derogatory term. Bush's " with us or against us" quote was directed at other nations and even then did no name calling. Care to try again or was that your best shot?

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    If you do not want your beliefs ridiculed, then you should have less ridiculous beliefs. But hey, if the shoe fits...



    The first fifteen that labeled a whole bunch "slaves". And then all the ones that labeled women "chattel", and then "unfit to vote", and every one until the 1970s, who labeled them "required by law to submit sexually to their husbands". And then all the presidents between Lincoln and JLB who labeled blacks "separate but equal", and the ones who still label them "lazy welfare abusers". And all the presidents before Obama who labeled gays as "unable to marry" and "abominations".

    Criticizing you for your demonstrably false and harmful positions is not derogatory.
    Sorry, not worth responding to. I will say one thing though, Romney was arguably defeated due to his "takers" quote which is on par with the "flat earth society " quote.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama's quote was directed against Americans who disagree with his stance on AGW an the term "flat earth society" can be considered nothing other than an insulting derogatory term. Bush's " with us or against us" quote was directed at other nations and even then did no name calling. Care to try again or was that your best shot?
    Awwwwwwww YOU POOR THING!

    Is Obama calling you names?

    Don't worry Sawyer.

    Have some hot apple cider and get yourself to bed.

    I'll call your teacher tomorrow and we'll put an end to this bullying.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Awwwwwwww YOU POOR THING!

    Is Obama calling you names?

    Don't worry Sawyer.

    Have some hot apple cider and get yourself to bed.

    I'll call your teacher tomorrow and we'll put an end to this bullying.
    That added to the conversation.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    That added to the conversation.
    If you want to continue to deny science, you'll get **** for it.

    That simple.

    Sawyer you need to face the fact you are science illiterate and you are your little extremist right wing buddies do not possess some superior intellect which has allowed you to uncover a massive conspiracy by every person who believes in man made climate change to control your life.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If you want to continue to deny science, you'll get **** for it.

    That simple.

    Sawyer you need to face the fact you are science illiterate and you are your little extremist right wing buddies do not possess some superior intellect which has allowed you to uncover a massive conspiracy by every person who believes in man made climate change to control your life.
    That added to the conversation.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Can you give me some examples of other presidents that have labeled half of America with a derogatory term such as "flat earth society"?
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    Not really.
    However, I remember in the run-up to the 2006 mid-terms, GW opining that "if the Dems prevail, the terrorists win and America loses"
    I would say that's a little "divisive".
    How about you?
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Here is what he said to get elected.

    MANCHESTER, N.H., Aug. 14 -- Drawing a sharp contrast with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, his main rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama said in an interview that he has the capacity she may lack to unify the country and move it out of what he called "ideological gridlock." "I think it is fair to say that I believe I can bring the country together more effectively than she can," Obama said. "I will add, by the way, that is not entirely a problem of her making. Some of those battles in the '90s that she went through were the result of some pretty unfair attacks on the Clintons. But that history exists, and so, yes, I believe I can bring the country together in a way she cannot do. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't be running."

    Here is what he says now.

    "The question is not whether we need to act. The overwhelming judgment of science, of chemistry and physics and millions of measurements, has put all that to rest,” Obama said in a major policy address at Georgetown University. “So the question now is whether we will have the courage to act before it's too late.” He later added, addressing those who deny climate change science: “We don’t have time for a meeting of the flat-earth society.”

    So you tell me, uniter or divider.

    I'm not a big Obama fan, but I voted Uniter. I'm for Obamacare and he got that rolling. I believe Global Warming is a larger threat than terrorism, so I applaud his oratorical concerns here , but would prefer some real legislative or policy action. He's been a real mutt, but must be consistently compared to his predecessor so he comes off looking good, and he is an exponential improvement. The NSA brouhaha dividing us at this time should have been more thoroughly investigated when the Patriot Act was passed. Where did the instant 1100 page Act come from overnight. There is an agenda afoot that has been ignored. I hope the NSA pimple comes to a boiling head and is excised like a carbuncle. That is the divide I seek.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Here is what he said to get elected.

    MANCHESTER, N.H., Aug. 14 -- Drawing a sharp contrast with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, his main rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama said in an interview that he has the capacity she may lack to unify the country and move it out of what he called "ideological gridlock." "I think it is fair to say that I believe I can bring the country together more effectively than she can," Obama said. "I will add, by the way, that is not entirely a problem of her making. Some of those battles in the '90s that she went through were the result of some pretty unfair attacks on the Clintons. But that history exists, and so, yes, I believe I can bring the country together in a way she cannot do. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't be running."

    Here is what he says now.

    "The question is not whether we need to act. The overwhelming judgment of science, of chemistry and physics and millions of measurements, has put all that to rest,” Obama said in a major policy address at Georgetown University. “So the question now is whether we will have the courage to act before it's too late.” He later added, addressing those who deny climate change science: “We don’t have time for a meeting of the flat-earth society.”

    So you tell me, uniter or divider.
    He may just be uniting all of us against the god damned government.
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
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    Not really.
    However, I remember in the run-up to the 2006 mid-terms, GW opining that "if the Dems prevail, the terrorists win and America loses"
    I would say that's a little "divisive".
    How about you?
    Typical campaign rhetoric on Bush's part. Obama is president and he ran as a uniter, so much for that.

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