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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I think that when Obama was elected, one of his major goals was to try to bridge the divide in the country, created in large part by GWB and the wedge issues that the Republicans had used in the last several elections.

    I think the reality is that Obama was opposed by the United Party of NO...every step of the way, and so he gave up trying to unite the country and recognized that since it wasn't possible, if he wanted to get ANYTHING done he would have to oppose their efforts.

    I don't blame Obama for this....I blame the Party of No. Hopefully the next President, be she Democrat or Republican won't encounter the same level of hostility that Obama has.
    Riiiiight. Because YOU...people like you...YOU arent divisive. Its someone else...someone elses fault.


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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Tune in to am radio for a half hour, and take in all the demagoguery about liberals being the enemies of America.

    That is dividing America.
    Really, are the libs listening too?
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I think that when Obama was elected, one of his major goals was to try to bridge the divide in the country, created in large part by GWB and the wedge issues that the Republicans had used in the last several elections.

    I think the reality is that Obama was opposed by the United Party of NO...every step of the way, and so he gave up trying to unite the country and recognized that since it wasn't possible, if he wanted to get ANYTHING done he would have to oppose their efforts.

    I don't blame Obama for this....I blame the Party of No. Hopefully the next President, be she Democrat or Republican won't encounter the same level of hostility that Obama has.
    The Democratic Party was the Part of Yes during the Bush years.
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    It was sophistry to suggest one man would "united" America as divided as it is currently, and its hyperbole to act as if one man is responsible for the divide or further divide.

    Obama did as all pretty much all politicals do....mislead, promise emptily, exaggerate, and manipulate to further their primary purpose, political capital. If at times that means attempting to "unite" some portion of the population, then so be it. If that means attempting to "divide" some portion of the population, so be it. If that means telling the populatoin that you're something different, something uniquely new, something sizably different when that's utter hogwash, that's cool too.

    Obama is no more of a uniter or divider than any other modern politician...he's just a far better POLITICIAN on the public facing side than many of them are.
    Can you give me some examples of other presidents that have labeled half of America with a derogatory term such as "flat earth society"?

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    He is neither. Americans have been dividing before him and given the current climate, will still be divided after him.
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Can you give me some examples of other presidents that have labeled half of America with a derogatory term such as "flat earth society"?
    Said quote requires significant assumptions to suggest he's labeling "half of america" as that...similar type of assumptions people use to suggest that George Bush stated that anyone who disagreed with his stance on the War on Terror was "against [america]". Similarly, suggesting that "half of america's" views on things are "much that isn't so" is hardly a grant instance of united as opposed to insulting either.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    He's dividing America by uniting the worst part of it.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Dividing America into ideological camps by labeling one viewpoint "flat earth society" is the subject.
    If you do not want your beliefs ridiculed, then you should have less ridiculous beliefs. But hey, if the shoe fits...

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Can you give me some examples of other presidents that have labeled half of America with a derogatory term such as "flat earth society"?
    The first fifteen that labeled a whole bunch "slaves". And then all the ones that labeled women "chattel", and then "unfit to vote", and every one until the 1970s, who labeled them "required by law to submit sexually to their husbands". And then all the presidents between Lincoln and JLB who labeled blacks "separate but equal", and the ones who still label them "lazy welfare abusers". And all the presidents before Obama who labeled gays as "unable to marry" and "abominations".

    Criticizing you for your demonstrably false and harmful positions is not derogatory.
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The Democratic Party was the Part of Yes during the Bush years.
    Pretty much....The Democrats are spineless and gave Bush pretty much everything that he wanted. Unlike the party of No.
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Poll needs "other" option.

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