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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The problem is that you're more concerned with if it's a blue state or a red state.
    No, that's your assumption based on your bias.

    For example, I'm concerned with unemployment rates, deficits, tax rates, and the number of people on the public dole.

    With only 12% or so of the nations population, California carries over 30% of the nations public assistance cases. I'd suggest that by itself is a serious problem.

    Red or Blue is not the issue.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Odd theory considering that the vast majority of the media is not conservative. What is overlooked by many is that all of our congress critters (in both parties) are not ever talking about changing priorities, as in stop that and do this instead, but simply trying to add more things to the role of the federal gov't. This obviously is not under the direct control of the POTUS but the recent (last decade) 25% increase in federal spending relative to GDP indicates that problems are not due to too little federal spending.

    U.S. Fed Govt Budget as % of GDP Over Time - Supporting Evidence
    Not being conservative and using one's platform to create division and animosity are not the same thing. The conservative pundits employ an entirely different approach to their reporting than the mainstream media; an approach that is decidedly and directly anti-Obama, divisive and antagonistic...and it works with their audience!
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I don't think he is doing either. He is largely relegated to being administrator in chief. I don't see him as having the political power or influence to unite or divide. All he does is try to create photo ops for the mythology that will follow his Presidency.
    Calling half of America the "flat earth society" is not dividing?

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This illustrates my point exactly.
    How so?

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Not being conservative and using one's platform to create division and animosity are not the same thing. The conservative pundits employ an entirely different approach to their reporting than the mainstream media; an approach that is decidedly and directly anti-Obama, divisive and antagonistic...and it works with their audience!
    Are you asserting that the majority of America is their audience?

    It is interesting to claim that others are divisive and antagonistic when Obama openly refers to those that dare disagree with him as his "enemies" when he won't even use the term "enemies" in referring to the Taliban.

    Obama: I shouldn't have used the word 'enemies'
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Calling half of America the "flat earth society" is not dividing?
    Have you ever been to Florida or the Midwest? Flat as a freaking pancake.

    He is not dividing the nation--the nation is already divided. He leads from behind because he is too indecisive and obsessed with not losing that he is unwilling to risk anything. Crap like that sings to the choir. Unless and until he takes Harry and Nancy to the woodshed in a very public way, he is third in line to leadership in his own party, let alone the nation.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Here is what he said to get elected.

    MANCHESTER, N.H., Aug. 14 -- Drawing a sharp contrast with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, his main rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama said in an interview that he has the capacity she may lack to unify the country and move it out of what he called "ideological gridlock." "I think it is fair to say that I believe I can bring the country together more effectively than she can," Obama said. "I will add, by the way, that is not entirely a problem of her making. Some of those battles in the '90s that she went through were the result of some pretty unfair attacks on the Clintons. But that history exists, and so, yes, I believe I can bring the country together in a way she cannot do. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't be running."

    Here is what he says now.

    "The question is not whether we need to act. The overwhelming judgment of science, of chemistry and physics and millions of measurements, has put all that to rest,” Obama said in a major policy address at Georgetown University. “So the question now is whether we will have the courage to act before it's too late.” He later added, addressing those who deny climate change science: “We don’t have time for a meeting of the flat-earth society.”

    So you tell me, uniter or divider.
    Two different subjects. So did he say that he was going to deal with only one issue?

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Are you asserting that the majority of America is their audience?

    It is interesting to claim that others are divisive and antagonistic when Obama openly refers to those that dare disagree with him as his "enemies" when he won't even use the term "enemies" in referring to the Taliban.

    Obama: I shouldn't have used the word 'enemies'
    Oh no, not at all. Just enough to create strong antipathy with some who could be described as politically active. Just an educated guess but I'd say maybe 1/5 to 1/3 of the country is really into politics, if that. So less than half of 1/5 to 1/3. Its the 1/5 to 1/3 that do all the talking about politics but most just aren't interested and have other things on their minds. Some get interested just around election time; still almost half of all Americans don't even vote. If it were the majority of all Americans, we'd have a different President right now.
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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    He is definitely not a uniter but face it...the country is well divided and that happened long before him. Your example about his comment re "flat earth" was not meant to divide, it was meant to pander. He panders VERY well. He is a panderer. When it suits him and he thinks he can score points he will wade in and usually ends up looking like a total retard for doing so. The Beer summit comes to mind as does the "If I had a son he would look like Trayvon Martin" idiocy. He is also not a 'leader'.

    But a divider? Nah...thats like people blaming their own stupid decisions on Satan.

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    Re: Is obama unting or dividing America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, there is no option there that I could use. Obama is neither uniting or dividing the USA. Partisan politics is what is dividing the USA, Obama is part of that but not the main factor, Republicans have just as big a role (if not bigger) by their refusal to even think about ending their obstructive partisan war on the American people.



    correct and anybody honest and objective sees this basic common sense principle.

    "OBAMA" is doing anything on this GENERAL front.
    Hacks, media, hypocrisy, biased rhetoric and hyperbole and extreme partisan nonsense is the problem today and its pathetic how many stupid people fall for it.

    THe fact is Obama got elected twice by his ability to unite people, he united more people from both sides than most presidents have but that was for his elections not on the general front.
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