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  • Christian conservative

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  • Limited government conservative

    6 23.08%
  • Neoconservative

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  • Paleoconservative

    2 7.69%
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    What Kind Of Conservative are you?

    I see a lot of conservatives on here and am curious

    Which one do you identify with closest?


    Traditionalist conservatism
    —Opposition to rapid change in governmental and societal institutions. This kind of conservatism is anti-ideological insofar as it emphasizes means (slow change) over ends (any particular form of government). To the traditionalist, whether one arrives at a right- or left-wing government is less important than whether change is effected through rule of law rather than through revolution and sudden innovation.

    Christian conservatism—Conservative Christians are primarily interested in family values. Typical positions include the view that the United States was founded as a Christian nation, that abortion is wrong, that there should be prayer in state schools, and that marriage should be defined as between one man and one woman and not between two members of the same sex. Many attack the profanity and sexuality in the media and movies.

    Limited government conservatism
    —Limited government conservatives look for a decreased role of the federal government. They follow Thomas Jefferson and James Madison in their suspicion of a powerful federal government.

    Neoconservatism—A modern form of conservatism that supports a more assertive, interventionist foreign policy, aimed at promoting democracy abroad. It is tolerant of an activist government at home, but is focused mostly on international affairs. Neoconservatism was first described by a group of disaffected liberals, and thus Irving Kristol, usually credited as its intellectual progenitor, defined a neoconservative as "a liberal who was mugged by reality." Although originally regarded as an approach to domestic policy (the founding instrument of the movement, Kristol's The Public Interest periodical, did not even cover foreign affairs), through the influence of figures like Dick Cheney, Robert Kagan, Richard Perle, Kenneth Adelman and (Irving's son) Bill Kristol, it has become most famous for its association with the foreign policy of the George W. Bush administration. Many of the nation's most prominent and influential conservatives during the two terms of the Bush administration were considered "neoconservative" in their ideological orientation.[216]

    Paleoconservatism—In part a rebirth of the Old Right, arising in the 1980s in reaction to neoconservatism, stresses tradition, especially Christian tradition and the importance to society of the traditional family. Some, Samuel P. Huntington for example, argue that multiracial, multi-ethnic, and egalitarian states are inherently unstable.[217] Paleoconservatives are generally isolationist, and suspicious of foreign influence. The magazines Chronicles and The American Conservative are generally considered to be paleoconservative in nature.

    Libertarian conservatism – A fusion with libertarianism, this type emphasizes a strict interpretation of the Constitution, particularly with regard to federal power. Libertarian conservatism is constituted by a broad, sometimes conflicted, coalition including pro-business social moderates, those favoring more rigid enforcement of states' rights, individual liberty activists, and many of those who place their socially liberal ideology ahead of their fiscal beliefs. This mode of thinking tends to espouse laissez-faire economics and a critical view of the federal government. Libertarian conservatives' emphasis on personal freedom often leads them to have social positions contrary to those of social conservatives. The libertarian branch of conservatism may have similar disputes that isolationist paleoconservatives would with neoconservatives. However, libertarian conservatives may be more militarily interventionist or support a greater degree of military strength than other libertarians. Contrarily, a strong preference for local government puts libertarian conservatives in frequent opposition to international government.
    Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Or do you reject these descriptions, if so than please provide your own.
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    Re: What Kind Of Conservative are you?

    There is no such thing as a libertarian conservative. Those things are mutually exclusive.
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    Re: What Kind Of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I see a lot of conservatives on here and am curious

    Which one do you identify with closest?



    Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Or do you reject these descriptions, if so than please provide your own.

    Libertarian/Conservative although I'm a Green, so it is certainly not all inclusive.

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    Re: What Kind Of Conservative are you?

    Christian/Constitutional Conservative.
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    Re: What Kind Of Conservative are you?

    I used to identify myself as more of a libertarian. I didn't see my strong opposition to abortion as in conflict with this, as it stemmed from my belief in inalienable human rights (if you believe than an unborn child is a human being, then one no more has a right to kill it than one doe to kill any other child).

    Then I realized that libertarianism wasn't really possible absent a strong civil society. Mothers and Children require support, and that support will either come from a father, or a government. Those who get their support from the government will be far more likely to acquiesce or see the benefit in allowing said government to control or limit their decisions. The same is true of others who, at one point or another in their life, require help. If they do not have strong civil institutions to rely on, they (and others) will insist that government fill the gap.

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    Re: What Kind Of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Libertarian/Conservative although I'm a Green, so it is certainly not all inclusive.
    I've often wondered how come there isn't more conservation in conservatism...

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    Re: What Kind Of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I've often wondered how come there isn't more conservation in conservatism...
    Well it's a fair point - and it speaks to the dramatic differences between European and American "conserv"atives - American conservatives are more traditional 18th-19th Century Liberals with a strong attachment to civil society functions - family, faith, etc. European conservatives (outside of the Briths) nave no Liberal filter.

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    Re: What Kind Of Conservative are you?

    Of those choices: limited government conservative.

    I also would say I am a fiscal conservative who likes there is a Libertarian faction of the Republican Party.

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    Re: What Kind Of Conservative are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    There is no such thing as a libertarian conservative. Those things are mutually exclusive.
    On the contrary, I'd say they're essentially synonyms, to the extent that when you see a nominal "conservative" arguing for increased or more centralized government power, you are seeing someone abandoning principles for shortsighted personal gain.

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    Re: What Kind Of Conservative are you?

    I self-identify as a neo-anti-federalist, which places me in the limited-government conservative mold.
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