View Poll Results: What is you opinion of Euthanasia

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Thread: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

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    Re: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

    Here in the Netherlands the law is as follows:

    The law allows medical review board to suspend prosecution of doctors who performed euthanasia when each of the following conditions is fulfilled:

    - the patient's suffering is unbearable with no prospect of improvement
    - the patient's request for euthanasia must be voluntary and persist over time (the request cannot be granted when under the influence of others, psychological illness or drugs)
    - the patient must be fully aware of his/her condition, prospects and options
    - there must be consultation with at least one other independent doctor who needs to confirm the conditions mentioned above
    - the death must be carried out in a medically appropriate fashion by the doctor or patient, in which case the doctor must be present
    - the patient is at least 12 years old (patients between 12 and 16 years of age require the consent of their parents)

    The doctor must also report the cause of death to the municipal coroner in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Burial and Cremation Act. A regional review committee assesses whether a case of termination of life on request or assisted suicide complies with the due care criteria. Depending on its findings, the case will either be closed or, if the conditions are not met brought to the attention of the Public Prosecutor. Finally, the legislation offers an explicit recognition of the validity of a written declaration of will of the patient regarding euthanasia (a "euthanasia directive"). Such declarations can be used when a patient is in a coma or otherwise unable to state if they wish to be euthanized.

    (source wikipedia)

    And that is largely how I feel about it too, the rules must be strict and enforced to make sure that the following stipulations are followed to protect the patient and the doctor.
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    Re: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Here in the Netherlands the law is as follows:

    The law allows medical review board to suspend prosecution of doctors who performed euthanasia when each of the following conditions is fulfilled:

    - the patient's suffering is unbearable with no prospect of improvement
    - the patient's request for euthanasia must be voluntary and persist over time (the request cannot be granted when under the influence of others, psychological illness or drugs)
    - the patient must be fully aware of his/her condition, prospects and options
    - there must be consultation with at least one other independent doctor who needs to confirm the conditions mentioned above
    - the death must be carried out in a medically appropriate fashion by the doctor or patient, in which case the doctor must be present
    - the patient is at least 12 years old (patients between 12 and 16 years of age require the consent of their parents)

    The doctor must also report the cause of death to the municipal coroner in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Burial and Cremation Act. A regional review committee assesses whether a case of termination of life on request or assisted suicide complies with the due care criteria. Depending on its findings, the case will either be closed or, if the conditions are not met brought to the attention of the Public Prosecutor. Finally, the legislation offers an explicit recognition of the validity of a written declaration of will of the patient regarding euthanasia (a "euthanasia directive"). Such declarations can be used when a patient is in a coma or otherwise unable to state if they wish to be euthanized.

    (source wikipedia)

    And that is largely how I feel about it too, the rules must be strict and enforced to make sure that the following stipulations are followed to protect the patient and the doctor.
    The patient's suffering... which does not mean just 'physical pain', I hope. There is much more to 'suffering' than what can be defined by physical pain.
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    Re: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What if you had esophageal cancer and had to get all of your food through a tube and poop in a bag and what if it got so bad that you couldn't breathe anymore and had to be on a respirator too? And that's not even mentioning the pain, which is excruciating and can only be controlled with high doses of narcotic pain medications, which still don't work so well.

    That's the type of scenario I think of where I would probably want euthanasia. I don't like the idea of the "suicide pills" though. I think it should be done under the supervision of a medical professional.
    I'd kill myself or I would ride it out. I would not put that onto others to do for me, but if you didn't want the respirator and to just die then they would let you now.

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    Re: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I'd kill myself or I would ride it out. I would not put that onto others to do for me, but if you didn't want the respirator and to just die then they would let you now.
    Who do you mean by "others?" Doctors?

    Yes, you can actually have a DNR (do not resuscitate) status, but a lot of times the doctors don't receive it until it's too late, and they revive the patient anyway. I've typed about that happening a bunch of times. I'm not sure about the laws on actually pulling the plug, whether it differs from state to state or what not.

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    Re: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    The patient's suffering... which does not mean just 'physical pain', I hope. There is much more to 'suffering' than what can be defined by physical pain.
    No, that also includes unbearable suffering from mental conditions (some mental conditions that is).
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    Re: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    No, that also includes unbearable suffering from mental conditions (some mental conditions that is).
    So that would limit those who aren't mentally deteriorated or in physical pain from making that choice.

    I'm glad I have the means, if I should want it, to do what I need to when the time comes.
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    Re: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I'd kill myself or I would ride it out. I would not put that onto others to do for me, but if you didn't want the respirator and to just die then they would let you now.
    I would not choose suicide because then there will always be questions, someone will find you and he will have to live with that happening. I don't care if the euthanasia is administered by self administered under medical supervision, but out and out suicide is not the way out IMHO. Especially because it would not solve anything, people who are not able to commit suicide would still be suffering unbearably with no legal way out.
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    Re: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Who do you mean by "others?" Doctors?

    Yes, you can actually have a DNR (do not resuscitate) status, but a lot of times the doctors don't receive it until it's too late, and they revive the patient anyway. I've typed about that happening a bunch of times. I'm not sure about the laws on actually pulling the plug, whether it differs from state to state or what not.
    Well if one were to have all the ailments you described, they would have plenty of time; there are medalert bracelets for that; people that bad off usually have enough drugs on hand to kill a herd of elephants; and even beyond all that, you could just stop eating and drinking and you would go pretty quick.

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    Re: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Well if one were to have all the ailments you described, they would have plenty of time; there are medalert bracelets for that; people that bad off usually have enough drugs on hand to kill a herd of elephants; and even beyond all that, you could just stop eating and drinking and you would go pretty quick.
    Starvation? That's what you would limit a person already suffering to go out dealing with?
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    Re: Euthanasia, should people have the right to decide their own end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I would not choose suicide because then there will always be questions, someone will find you and he will have to live with that happening. I don't care if the euthanasia is administered by self administered under medical supervision, but out and out suicide is not the way out IMHO. Especially because it would not solve anything, people who are not able to commit suicide would still be suffering unbearably with no legal way out.
    Then they cannot expect my support. There is no situation in which I would support euthanasia. None. Not a single one. People think it is humane. I think it devalues human life. Life is a bitch and so is death usually. That is just how it is.

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