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    Re: Is Obama A Bully?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Good to know you have an open mind.

    Guess you didn't really want an answer to your question after all.
    The most open of open...but not so much that I lack conviction.

    I didn't want an answer because I asked a follow up question? Once you've responded, that it, eh? Beyond reproach and how dare someone second guess you? Got it...

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    Re: Is Obama A Bully?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    He is a bully, but not in the way you seem to think. If anything, he has shown himself to be rather timid when it comes to international relations.

    He acually seems to save the majority of his intimidating bluster and coercive power for his political opponents on the domestic front. His administration has gone to absolutely obscene lengths to target and even silence groups and individuals which might prove to be troublesome for the Obama agenda.

    The IRS scandal and the Obama White House's treatment of the media stand as testament to this fact.



    To be fair, the governments of most of the nations which our drones "invade" are complicit in those operations on at least some level.
    Well, once a bully....

    I see what you're saying and agree. I was trying to rush and put the issue in as vague as possible terms as I could. I could have gone in-depth but figured the opposition wouldn't listen so why put forth the effort and those that agree I would be preaching to the choir. A little lazy I now but...

    Being complicit and being coerced are two separate things though.

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    Re: Is Obama A Bully?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, but it does make your attempt to distinguish him less compelling.
    For some, as shown in 2012, it doesn't matter how much evidence, the people just won't listen...

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    Re: Is Obama A Bully?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The answer may be underscored by his planned announcement regarding global warming, scheduled for tomorrow...

    Obama to lay out climate change plan in speech on Tuesday

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Saturday that he will outline a climate change plan on Tuesday centered around reducing pollution from carbon emissions as he attempts to make good on a pledge for his second term.


    Well here's a wonderful example of seeing an effect misinterpreting the cause and shoving asinine solutions down the throats of everyone. It's what happens when you politicize science.

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    Re: Is Obama A Bully?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Well, once a bully....

    I see what you're saying and agree. I was trying to rush and put the issue in as vague as possible terms as I could. I could have gone in-depth but figured the opposition wouldn't listen so why put forth the effort and those that agree I would be preaching to the choir. A little lazy I now but...

    Being complicit and being coerced are two separate things though.
    Maybe he is with others.....but he is not a bully around here and definitely not with any off the streets here. Around here with people on the streets.....he learned a long time ago. To Keep his mouth shut and not say to much. Which helped kept his dome intact.

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    Re: Is Obama A Bully?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Well here's a wonderful example of seeing an effect misinterpreting the cause and shoving asinine solutions down the throats of everyone. It's what happens when you politicize science.

    From what has been discussed, the President plans to detail how he will use his executive powers, and the unilateral powers of regulatory agencies like the EPA to carry out his orders.

    If this is true, it would seem he is not interested in engaging Congress, or the will of the citizens of this country regarding this issue.

    That would seem to answer the Bully question.

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    Re: Is Obama A Bully?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    From what has been discussed, the President plans to detail how he will use his executive powers, and the unilateral powers of regulatory agencies like the EPA to carry out his orders.

    If this is true, it would seem he is not interested in engaging Congress, or the will of the citizens of this country regarding this issue.

    That would seem to answer the Bully question.
    We are a democratic Republic, not a dictatorship! He is only one branch of the government, and whether or not he likes it, that is the way it is! Congress is there to represent the will of the people, and they will not be ignored. Does BHO even understand what the word "compromise" means? This is getting ridiculous!

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    Re: Is Obama A Bully?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    It seems to me when it comes to the targeting of individuals for drone strikes, when it comes to countries of less stature, of less means, Obama is very cavalier in his handling of the situation. He has no problem flexing US might and never misses a chance to peacock in front of the press on how tough he is.

    However, when faced with real opposition, say Russia, China, Iran..... He's a timid little dove.

    So, where I come from we have a name for people who lord their strength over the weak who prey on easy targets but tuck tail to the strong or possibly formidable adversaries. What do we call them?

    A Bully.

    What say you?
    I call them WingNuts. Doesn't matter if they're on the left or right. Basically they whine and threaten others if they don't get their way, kinda like my 5 YO grandson if he can't have cake for breakfast. Bullies come in many shapes and sizes. There's some on this forum, if they don't get the answer they want, or the answer isn't in line with their beliefs they throw a tantrum and scream " I'm right and you're wrong" or just refuse to look past their red or blue colored blinders.
    I confess, I did it, I let the dogs out.

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    Re: Is Obama A Bully?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Maybe he is with others.....but he is not a bully around here and definitely not with any off the streets here. Around here with people on the streets.....he learned a long time ago. To Keep his mouth shut and not say to much. Which helped kept his dome intact.
    Well, you know, ever since he helped Calypso Louie with his Bean Pie sale over at UofC he really hasn't had much to worry about...

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    Re: Is Obama A Bully?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Well, once a bully....

    I see what you're saying and agree. I was trying to rush and put the issue in as vague as possible terms as I could. I could have gone in-depth but figured the opposition wouldn't listen so why put forth the effort and those that agree I would be preaching to the choir. A little lazy I now but...

    Being complicit and being coerced are two separate things though.
    I'm honestly not sure if they're the ones being coerced in this situation, or if we are.

    We pay the Pakistani Government absolutely obscene amounts of money in order to make use of their ports and road ways so that we can keep our troops in Afghanistan supplied. If they wanted to, they could severely undermine the war effort by closing those routes, and by using the Taliban as a proxy force against us, as they did with the Mujahideen against the Soviets in the 1980s.

    They don't necessarily have to help us, after all. We lack the political will and strategic postioning necessary to act against them in any military sense at the present moment if they were to side against us.

    On the other hand, however; their highly corrupt and unstable government is basically only being kept afloat by US military and financial aid, and there are quite a few radical Islamic groups operating in Pakistan which would like to topple the existing regime just as badly as they would ever like to oust US forces from Afghanistan.

    As such, they don't really mind allowing us to use our drones to help take out the occassional high value target so long as it keeps that money flowing, and saves them from having to do the dirty work themselves. They simply prefer that we keep things discrete so that they can save face with the highly anti-American groups which make up a significant portion of their population.

    It's kind of a difficult situation either way you want to look at it. The US and Pakistan might not like each other per se, but they certainly seem to need one another's cooperation at the present moment.
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 06-24-13 at 07:30 PM.

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