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Thread: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    There is protocol for this; Snowden just failed to follow it. This is why he isn't a whistleblower. He could have gone to the Inspector General, Congress etc- however he chose not to, he instead took it upon himself to override the checks and balances of government and expose things that were obviously not meant for public consumption.

    There is a reason something is Top Secret! What part of the constitution is he defending?? None. You have no right to privacy- that's myth. Groupon, Google and Facebook know more about the average American than the NSA- please.

    It's ok if someone "violates your privacy" as long as you get a 10% discount on some random crap you buy, but if you get security people are up in arms?! WTF- seriously?!
    We the people are the government. His duty is to we the people.

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    Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    You protect the constitution by letting we the people who are the real authority know what those with position are doing with our power and money.

    He went to Russia because we have secret prisons to torture people.
    Where are these top secret prisons you so knowingly speak off? Have you seen one, been there? LOL

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    Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    We the people are the government. His duty is to we the people.
    OMG, what a bunch of empty fluff. Oh "we the people" please... In a civil society WE THE PEOPLE elect officials and create institutions to manage national affairs- that's what government is for.

    If that's not the case, then someone get me the keys to Fort Knox- I as part of "we the people" need to make a withdrawal LMFAOL!

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Would a patriot run to China or Russia?

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    Where are these top secret prisons you so knowingly speak off? Have you seen one, been there? LOL
    How would I know where the secret prisons are. I know we have a torture facility in Cuba.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    How would I know where the secret prisons are. I know we have a torture facility in Cuba.
    Yes. If he allowes the government to hide him with no charges and Tortue he helps no one.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    OMG, what a bunch of empty fluff. Oh "we the people" please... In a civil society WE THE PEOPLE elect officials and create institutions to manage national affairs- that's what government is for.

    If that's not the case, then someone get me the keys to Fort Knox- I as part of "we the people" need to make a withdrawal LMFAOL!
    You can worship authority and the state that is ok. If government makes you feel safe that is common.

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    Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    How would I know where the secret prisons are. I know we have a torture facility in Cuba.
    So you don't even know if they exist but you know we have one in Cuba? Lol that's just dandy then.

    Gitmon prisoners receive better care and treatment than US persons in county jail lol

    In those nirvana of freedom called China and Russia they would have been killed years ago! And guess what, no one would have even known- or cared.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    So you don't even know if they exist but you know we have one in Cuba? Lol that's just dandy then.

    Gitmon prisoners receive better care and treatment than US persons in county jail lol

    In those nirvana of freedom called China and Russia they would have been killed years ago! And guess what, no one would have even known- or cared.
    No one gets water boarded at county jail.

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    Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    You can worship authority and the state that is ok. If government makes you feel safe that is common.
    I don't worship anything or anyone- well I'm fond of that scarce commodity called common sense. Government doesn't make me feel safe or unsafe- the point is that "we the people" have tasked all three branches of government with the role of governing and for one info vial to put himself above those functions is not only arrogant but evidence of his naïveté.

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