View Poll Results: Patriot, Traitor, or something else?

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Thread: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    And Reagan Bush-41 did not knowingly direct Iran-Contra. Would Snowden have been a traitor or a patriot during the Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Bush-41, or Bush-43 administrations for giving away government secrets? I give Bush-43 credit for sticking to his guns against Cheney.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Depending on what you do after you blow the whistle, you may make it veeeeeery hard to even call you a whistleblower.
    Snowden has been making it harder every day.
    Or ... to put it another way ... does the Snowden-as-whistleblower meme require him to make additional disclosures to parties who are very unfriendly to the USA?
    He must protect himself and the only tool he has is information.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    He must protect himself and the only tool he has is information.
    Oh this is good ... Snowden flew off to the USA's adversaries armed with a thumb drive full of secrets in order to protect himself froooooom ... what?

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Oh this is good ... Snowden flew off to the USA's adversaries armed with a thumb drive full of secrets in order to protect himself froooooom ... what?
    The government trying to kill him for helping the people.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The government trying to kill him for helping the people.
    Are you suggesting he was/is being protected by Russia and China because he's feeding them USA secrets otherwise they'd have let him be killed by the CIA?

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    When you choose to break the law, you are a criminal.
    That is what I have been hoping Washington would realize concerning Wall Street.










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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The government trying to kill him for helping the people.
    Look ... I'd like to be able to say he's a good guy for doing what he did but I'm afraid he's not looking or behaving like a good guy ... despite what he did.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Are you suggesting he was/is being protected by Russia and China because he's feeding them USA secrets otherwise they'd have let him be killed by the CIA?
    I'm suggesting that bargaining chips are wise to take with you and use towards your protection when you do what he did.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sometimes the people need a criminal and other times they need a band of them.
    True perhaps.

    Same for Snowden.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    When you choose to break the law, you are a criminal.
    When a government agency carries out a highly contentious act that is arguably unconstitutional...and all in complete secrecy...what mechanisms are in place for citizens to challenge that act?

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