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Thread: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    He released classified information to the world, based on nothing more than his belief, after 3 short months, that the government was doing something wrong. He did not follow legal procedures to register his complaints. He is a criminal, and a traitor, and should be tried in a US federal court. If convicted, he should receive the appropriate prison time.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    When you choose to break the law, you are a criminal.
    Well, yeah. But is he a traitor? I say no. He has done a great service for liberty for bringing this to light (though those who pay attention already knew much of this). And by doing what he did he struck a blow to secrecy and deception.
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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    In my view, Snowden is neither a traitor nor a patriot - had he disclosed the information while remaining in America, a true act of civil disobedience in order to shine a light on government misdeeds, he may have been a patriot, but by fleeing the country he lost that moral high ground.
    Fair argument, but I think a lot can be said about the fact he had a lot to lose by revealing this information (whether he stayed or left).
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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Snowden is not making a good case for himself based on the company he is keeping. Supposedly he is in Moscow preparing to fly to Ecuador, which is coincidently where Julian assange of wikileaks is hiding out.
    What does travel have to do with "the company he keeps?"
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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    He had other choices. To deliberately choose the Russians says everything you need to know about him.
    Most Russians are no different than you and me. And the Russian government has no more blood on its hands than the US government.
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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    He is a patriot.

    May the universe grant him safe passage. I hope he invests his money well. He earned it.

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Personally, I'd torture his worthless ass if I had the opportunity, but I'm not the U.S. Government.
    Well that says a lot about your character. Torture a man who has not harmed anyone.
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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, he wasn't. But if that's how you really feel about Washington, then maybe this country isn't for you.
    Washington WAS a traitor and criminal to his British government, that is a fact... and I like the man a lot. Takes a lot of courage to directly oppose an oppressive State.
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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Yeah pretty hilarious calling Snowden a traitor. What was General Washington then?

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    Re: Is Edward Snowden a traitor or a patriot?

    Philanthropist.

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