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    Re: Unitarianism: Christian or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Do you think Jesus himself would reject Unitarianism?
    Yes if they don't call Him Lord.
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    Re: Unitarianism: Christian or not?

    They are Christians - in the sense that they ascribe the ultimate spiritual authority to Jesus Christ.

    One could argue that they are no more "Christian" than, say, Muslims (who accept Jesus as a great prophet and the Messiah - entirely human, though), but that is not quite accurate, is it? For the Unitarians, the word of Jesus is the last and final Word, whatever the "physics" of his being might have been. In Islam, he is merely a revered figure - nowhere as important as Mohammed, with his "last and final Word" embodied in the Koran.

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    Re: Unitarianism: Christian or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by JCHSALEM View Post
    If Unitarianism rejects the divinity of Christ, should it be considered a denomination of Christianity? Explain.


    My understanding is that Unitarianism declines to profess any given single religion as "the" religion, or any single "version" of God as THE God, and does not recognize the Christian concepts of Jesus as a necessary savior for a sinful humanity. IMO any religion that does not recognize Jesus Christ as the Messiah/Savior is not a Christian religion.

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    Re: Unitarianism: Christian or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Raises hand. Salvation is absolutely irrelevant if there exists neither original sin nor a divine, saving figure.

    The closest a typical Unitarian could get to such an idea would be the need to develop one's spirituality or wholeness. Perhaps you could gain the spiritual maturing by listening and acting like Jesus? Even so, there would be no reason to value Jesus' teachings over the philosophies and teachings of other prophets and holy figures.
    Even without original sin (let's face it, we've all managed sin after birth anyway) and a belief in the divinity of Jesus, one might find him to be a personal savior and means to eternal life.

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    Re: Unitarianism: Christian or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Even without original sin (let's face it, we've all managed sin after birth anyway) and a belief in the divinity of Jesus, one might find him to be a personal savior and means to eternal life.
    Nope. Jesus can't save you if He isn't divine.
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    Re: Unitarianism: Christian or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by JCHSALEM View Post
    If Unitarianism rejects the divinity of Christ, should it be considered a denomination of Christianity? Explain.
    ... characterizations of Christianity can be defined down to a very fine level of detail. In some narratives they are, in some they aren't.

    Nope. Jesus can't save you if He isn't divine.
    Divinity is an obscure metaphysical concept. Anyone can "save you" if God endows them with the authority/power to do so.
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    Re: Unitarianism: Christian or not?

    Unitarianism is not a strictly a Christian faith but readily accepts those that believe the teachings of Jesus expressed in the new testament.

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    Re: Unitarianism: Christian or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Unitarianism is not a strictly a Christian faith but readily accepts those that believe the teachings of Jesus expressed in the new testament.

    American Unitarian Conference
    They keep calling their faith Christian in that link.
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    Re: Unitarianism: Christian or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    They keep calling their faith Christian in that link.
    Because that is the Unitarian Christian link.

    The Unitarian base organization is the Unitarian Universalist - here is their web site:

    Beliefs and Principles in Unitarian Universalism | UUA
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    Re: Unitarianism: Christian or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Nope. Jesus can't save you if He isn't divine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Divinity is an obscure metaphysical concept. Anyone can "save you" if God endows them with the authority/power to do so.
    What do you mean by "divinity is an obscure metaphysical concept"? Divinity is certainly not obscure. Most every early civilization was able to come up with divinity as a concept: the Norse created Odin, the West Africans created the Juju up the mountain and the Hebrews created the war-god Yahweh, now evolved into the Christian god. All early humans had to do is pick qualities that are the opposite of a human (omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent), and use that as the basis for deities that had the ability to provide comforting thoughts like life after death or the hope that justice would be served.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Because that is the Unitarian Christian link. The Unitarian base organization is the Unitarian Universalist - here is their web site: Beliefs and Principles in Unitarian Universalism | UUA
    Yup. UUs are almost proud NOT to share a creed. I have been explained to that all that binds them together is their "7 Principles" : Our Unitarian Universalist Principles | UUA

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