View Poll Results: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline Their Children?

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  • Yes, they should be allowed to use corporal punishment if they think it is necessary.

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  • Yes, but only non-corporal methods should be allowed.

    3 8.57%
  • No, the new ways are just fine.

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    Re: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline their Children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Look around you. Many of them have guns too. For "self-defence"....
    I have. I've lived 22 years of my adult life around undoubtably hundreds if not thousands of people who...based on your logic...were taught that its acceptable to use violence to get what they want and yet never once have I actually had anyone use violence as a means of getting me to do what they want, let alone a firearm. How utterly strange...

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    Re: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline their Children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Hitting a child teaches it that it's acceptable to inflict pain on somebody else to make them do as you want.
    No, it teaches them what not to do in the future. I haven't hurt a innocent person yet (and never will), and I come from a family that does that oh so terrible spanking thing.

    It in no way teaches what you're insinuating.
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    Re: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline their Children?

    When I was in school the school system I attended still had what they called corporal punishment. Swats with a board were pretty basic but we also had many other methods such as holding books to each side of your body (arms outstretched) for hours on end and if your arms drooped to much or if you dropped the books you had time added and had to do it all over again. We also had what they called push up position where you had to support your upper body with your arms (like doing a push up) where you had to stay. Again if you could not support yourself for the allotted time you had time added and had to start over. They also had basics like running a certain distance on the field or sit ups, that sorta thing. I had witnessed kids who were not physically inclined miss several days to weeks of classroom time to fulfill their punishments.

    My problem with these types of punishments, like our penal system, is they fail to teach anyone the wrongness of their behavior. They simply make punishment miserable so a person may never consider their actions other then dreading the punishment leaving many to be "Ok" with their actions as long as they can get away with it and avoid the punishment. I think the proper way to deal with those who misbehave is to teach them and make them understand the "why" their actions are unacceptable. Holding books, being spanked, or forced into a cell will not achieve this. It only makes them become better at avoiding being caught and misses the core issues and this is why we have so many repeat offenders.

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    Re: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline their Children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    I voted, but don't think anything has really changed. I was spanked; I spank, the world keeps on spinning.
    My third grade teacher whaled on me once. Did I tell my mom? Of course not! Why would I risk two beatings in the same day?

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    Re: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline their Children?

    what a dumb-ass thread

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    Re: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline their Children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    what a dumb-ass thread
    With such insightful, well thought out, intelligent contributions such as this it is bound to get better. If you disapprove of the thread you always have the option of not participating in it.

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    Re: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline their Children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    With such insightful, well thought out, intelligent contributions such as this it is bound to get better. If you disapprove of the thread you always have the option of not participating in it.
    The premise of this thread assumes that parents must be GRANTED permission to discipline their offspring. This is typical of the liberal mindset, in that someone else must take charge of parenting, since anyone who does not agree with their methods must be ignorant and therefore has to be 'schooled and monitored' and told specifically what they must do.

    I do not approve or disapprove of any thread. I merely exercise my right to comment. Often times few words are required to make a point that most intelligent readers will grasp.

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    Re: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline their Children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    The premise of this thread assumes that parents must be GRANTED permission to discipline their offspring. This is typical of the liberal mindset, in that someone else must take charge of parenting, since anyone who does not agree with their methods must be ignorant and therefore has to be 'schooled and monitored' and told specifically what they must do.
    Well thats the rub isn't it. I can't speak for all states, including whichever one you live in. But in many of the "liberal" states, including California, New York, and New Jersey where I have lived, there are so many convoluted Childrens Welfare laws binding doctors, teacher, and parents in what they can't do, can do, must do, and must report that Parents are being hampered in performing what was once considered acceptable dicipline. When a child knows he can call Childrens Protective Services any time and expect a quick response, Parents feel too restricted to act.

    Hence my poll question.

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    Re: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline their Children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Well thats the rub isn't it. I can't speak for all states, including whichever one you live in. But in many of the "liberal" states, including California, New York, and New Jersey where I have lived, there are so many convoluted Childrens Welfare laws binding doctors, teacher, and parents in what they can't do, can do, must do, and must report that Parents are being hampered in performing what was once considered acceptable dicipline. When a child knows he can call Childrens Protective Services any time and expect a quick response, Parents feel too restricted to act.

    Hence my poll question.
    I was not able to ascertain your motivation from the way the poll was presented, so my apologies for being terse in my first comment. However it seems we are one in our opinion of this issue.

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    Re: Should Parents Be Given More Freedom to Discipline their Children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm more concerned with schools given more freedom to discipline children.

    After all, it looks like parents these days suck in that aspect.
    A school needs to remember that I reserve the right to disiplin anyone who lays a hand on my child.

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