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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Well I think employer provided healthcare AND for profit "insurance" are stupid ways to deliver healthcare.

    well thats your opinion, but companies are free to get into the insurance business.

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    How about we actually solve the problem of delivering healthcare and let people live their loves as they see fit.
    and how do we do that, let people live their life's as they see fit, if the federal government compels us to do things (healthcare) which they have no authority under the constitution to do.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    -------------- Most of my knowledge of polygamy comes from the highly publicized prosecutions of cultists. These cases all seem to involve religion-based brainwashing and old farts marrying underage girls. Totally unacceptable. Otherwise, if no coercion is involved, I guess PM is okay with me.
    Exactly, among consenting adults, with no coercion, then whatever within the species.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well thats your opinion, but companies are free to get into the insurance business.



    and how do we do that, let people live their life's as they see fit, if the federal government compels us to do things (healthcare) which they have no authority under the constitution to do.
    Well we didn't do the obvious thing, which was a bare bones uhc system with for profit upgrades.

    Nobody suffers needlessly, those who want more are free to pay for it. Fear of death/suffering is removed from the healthcare price setting system. Hospitals no longer have an excuse to charge twenty dollars for an aspirin.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    I have no problem with polygamous marriage, but only after we've figured out the legal problems inherent in allowing it. Solve those problems and I'm fine with it, but not until.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Polygamy should remain outlawed, but it should also be up to the state to grant it any kind of legal validity and shouldn't be barred from doing so.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Why not?
    Long history of child and spousal abuse. The ban on polygamy has little to do with the idea of having multiple spouses, and much more to do with all the abuse closely and strongly correlated with it. Compounds and cults, pre-arranged unions with 10-12 y/o'ds marrying a 30-40 something, etc.

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    The legal nightmare it would present...
    Obama'Care is a legal nightmare. Polygamy would only require a couple regulations.

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    ...as well as societal standards and customs.
    Same as SSM.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Since the topic of legalized polygamy has always been hopelessly muddled with the topic of gay marriage, I've never actually seen a clean set of arguments for and against it. To be honest I'd be very happy if this were to be such a thread.
    Good luck with that. This is a classic bait thread.


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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    today we have people who will sell marriage to foreigners to get into the u.s.

    if plural marriages were to take place you would have people selling marriage for........ benefits...IE ..healthcare would be the main one.
    How prevalent is that NOW? Why would it be any more prevalent (as a percentage of the total) if polygamy were legalized? Legalizing gay marriage in various states hasn't led to a significant rise in fraudulent unions to access medical benefits.

    Hell, my fiance's company offers domestic partnership benefits WITHOUT any legal union. You merely have to show proof of having lived together for the previous 6 months. And we live in TEXAS.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well no, i am down with a comapny telling you their not going to cover you because you have to many people and trying to load the benefit roster.
    Simple solution: Charge for each additional listed dependent or spouse, just like car insurance does.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If gay marriage is legalized, then there's no choice but to legalize plural marriage.
    This is entirely false. Legally it is untrue. Logically it is untrue.
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