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    Re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I have different beliefs than you.
    You have the perfect setup, roguenuke. A god that exists only in your head, and it's given you all the tools you need to please the atheists.

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    Re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Or we could just get the government out of marriage, and make being "married" a status determined by those involved, as well as any church or community that they choose to make it a part of. That solves all issues regarding legality, but people would still need to learn to accept others' desires in a life partner. Still, I think that getting government out of marriage would make that easier to accomplish.
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    Re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    You have the perfect setup, roguenuke. A god that exists only in your head, and it's given you all the tools you need to please the atheists.
    This is one of my favorite quotes and it describes most hardcore advocates of most major religions.

    “You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.” ― Anne Lamott

    I don't aim to please anyone. I just believe as I do and don't expect nor care if others believe that way or not. However, I do care if others are using their beliefs to try to condemn others for nothing more but those beliefs, whether it is extremist Christians or Muslims or any other members of major religions.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by AristocraticRep View Post
    Or we could just get the government out of marriage, and make being "married" a status determined by those involved, as well as any church or community that they choose to make it a part of. That solves all issues regarding legality, but people would still need to learn to accept others' desires in a life partner. Still, I think that getting government out of marriage would make that easier to accomplish.
    As long as the government recognizes legal family members (such as giving birth certificates and/or being involved in legal adoption), then they should too be involved in marriage. Churches nor any religion owns marriage.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This is one of my favorite quotes and it describes most hardcore advocates of most major religions.

    “You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.” ― Anne Lamott

    I don't aim to please anyone. I just believe as I do and don't expect nor care if others believe that way or not. However, I do care if others are using their beliefs to try to condemn others for nothing more but those beliefs, whether it is extremist Christians or Muslims or any other members of major religions.
    Correction: your god has given you the tools to please the entire planet. All except faithful Christians, of course. We simply cannot watch destructive forces impose their will on society.

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    Re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Correction: your god has given you the tools to please the entire planet. All except faithful Christians, of course.
    On the contrary, Christians are fine in my beliefs. It is those of any religion that wish to push their religion on others, who claim that their religion is the correct religion and should be supported by laws above other beliefs.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    On the contrary, Christians are fine in my beliefs. It is those of any religion that wish to push their religion on others, who claim that their religion is the correct religion and should be supported by laws above other beliefs.
    Your beliefs are pc compliant, and that's fantastic for pleasers and enablers. The atheists love you, and every radical on this planet should be able to call you "friend". Well done.

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    Re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Your beliefs are pc compliant, and that's fantastic for pleasers and enablers. The atheists love you, and every radical on this planet should be able to call you "friend". Well done.
    My beliefs are my beliefs. If you don't approve, fine. But they are mine. And no, not all atheists nor all religions (especially the radicals or extremists) love my religion because it completely contradicts their "my religion is the only possible truth" beliefs. You are proof of this very fact.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    My beliefs are my beliefs. If you don't approve, fine. But they are mine. And no, not all atheists nor all religions (especially the radicals or extremists) love my religion because it completely contradicts their "my religion is the only possible truth" beliefs. You are proof of this very fact.
    Your beliefs are harmless. I'm just trying to figure out how you justify the existence of a supreme being (even if it exists only in your mind) when it doesn't even communicate with you.

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    Re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    See, that's your problem. I'm not the only one who claims to have had communication with his maker. Literally millions of others will attest to the same thing I am claiming. I respect your tenacity, maquiscat, but you really have no idea what you're talking about. Roguenuke's responses were incoherent, and I called her out, as she has no idea what she's talking about, either.

    I think you're both much more interested in catching me in my own words than you are discovering the actual truth.
    What does it matter how many people might claim to have talked to your god? Roguenuke's god is just as likely (or unlikely) as your god. As an atheist, I shake my head at people claiming somehow they have the "true" god and everyone else is wrong.

    At least Roguenuke doesn't try to push his/her belief on to other people. From the recent threads (admittedly I haven't read all the pages) it sounds like you are ok pushing your "truth" on to other people. But I might be misinterpreting.

    But to tell Roguenuke that their god doesn't exist while you claim yours does just based on the number of people who agree with you... sorry, you can't will a god into existence through sheer numbers.

    If I've misunderstood the arguments, I apologize. I also am not sure how they fit into this thread, but again, I didn't read through all the pages so they might.

    But saying your god is god and Roguenuke's isn't and thinking that proves anything... sorry, that doesn't hold any weight.

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