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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I really have never heard about polygamists protesting about being unable to marry though, at least not widespread or newsworthy.
    Probably for the same reasons that you didn't hear about gays protesting about being unable to marry even 30 years ago. Right now gays have more acceptance than polys do.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Polygamy is illegal in the USA

    Anyone involved in this will likely end up in prison.

    Learn more:wikipedia.org/wiki/polygamy_and_bigamy_laws_in_the_U.S.
    Do you not get that the discussion is about a change in the laws? A discussion on what should be, not what is? Right now SSM is legal in some states and illegal in others. Interracial marriage was illegal at one time and now no longer is. If you are going to debate then put up your reasons as to why it should or should not be a part of our legal system. If all you are going to keep noting what is currently illegal in these thread, you'll need to change your ID to Captain Obvious.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Polygamy is illegal in the USA

    Anyone involved in this will likely end up in prison.

    Learn more:wikipedia.org/wiki/polygamy_and_bigamy_laws_in_the_U.S.
    BTW this is what your link brings up in it's entirety.

    Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Polygamy and bigamy laws in the U.S. in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.

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    Even for a Wikipedia reference (which is not normally good idea) this is sad support for your point

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Probably for the same reasons that you didn't hear about gays protesting about being unable to marry even 30 years ago. Right now gays have more acceptance than polys do.



    Do you not get that the discussion is about a change in the laws? A discussion on what should be, not what is? Right now SSM is legal in some states and illegal in others. Interracial marriage was illegal at one time and now no longer is. If you are going to debate then put up your reasons as to why it should or should not be a part of our legal system. If all you are going to keep noting what is currently illegal in these thread, you'll need to change your ID to Captain Obvious.



    Current laws in the USA are not obvious or even known by everyone

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    BTW this is what your link brings up in it's entirety.



    Even for a Wikipedia reference (which is not normally good idea) this is sad support for your point



    I don't waste time worrying about issues that don't concern me.

    Anyone who wants to research this should think about using Google.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Current laws in the USA are not obvious or even known by everyone
    I'm sure someone somewhere will eventually read this and think to themselves, "Oh my God, if shrubnose hadn't informed me that there wasn't any state where polygamy was legal, I'd have NEVER known that! Why, even after reading through over 500 posts discussing whether homosexual marriage paves the way for polygamy TO BECOME legal, I'd have never known that it wasn't already legal without his help. Holy, hot damn, I am so grateful that he took the time to state the obvious".

    And, of course, a "like" for your post will be forthcoming when that person finally reads it.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I don't waste time worrying about issues that don't concern me.

    Anyone who wants to research this should think about using Google.
    You don't waste your time pulling up factual support for your points? So you just throw out random links and say you're right? If this issue doesn't concern you then why are you commenting on it and throwing out links like you had any clue?

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I'm sure someone somewhere will eventually read this and think to themselves, "Oh my God, if shrubnose hadn't informed me that there wasn't any state where polygamy was legal, I'd have NEVER known that! Why, even after reading through over 500 posts discussing whether homosexual marriage paves the way for polygamy TO BECOME legal, I'd have never known that it wasn't already legal without his help. Holy, hot damn, I am so grateful that he took the time to state the obvious".

    And, of course, a "like" for your post will be forthcoming when that person finally reads it.



    And I will be eternally grateful for that 'like'.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    And if they aren't struck down, then you need to be just as satisfied that justice was served.
    No I don't. We'll just fight harder to get those laws changed through legislative means and continue to fight through the courts with better arguments. It will not be a 9-0 decision that keeps bans in place. It would be no less than 5-4 keeping them in place without some major issues causing a drastic shift in the makeup of the Court. But even then, as we saw with interracial marriage bans and even sodomy laws, those keep coming up until the laws are struck down. The laws are unconstitutional.

    Now, I nor anyone I know will riot or do anything violent against such a decision. It will simply be legal methods to overcome the decision because more freedom is always what we should strive for.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This is a debate site. I find it an interesting topic to debate.
    Actually, you find it an interesting topic to defend. There's a difference

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, it is simply that there are accusations made on that particular link with absolutely nothing to back them up. No links to articles. It was simply a poor choice as far as a link.
    I posted that link for you to dismantle, ChrisL, not for you to stamp your feet for proof or references. That's what Liberals do. If you don't like that site, then destroy it with facts, or simply ignore it. Either way, it's food for thought; nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, I don't want the government involved in people's personal lives or decisions as long as they are not hurting someone else.
    Read that article I posted, ChrisL. I mean, really read it this time. You might actually wake up and finally see what's truly going on.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Actually, you find it an interesting topic to defend. There's a difference

    I posted that link for you to dismantle, ChrisL, not for you to stamp your feet for proof or references. That's what Liberals do. If you don't like that site, then destroy it with facts, or simply ignore it. Either way, it's food for thought; nothing more.

    Read that article I posted, ChrisL. I mean, really read it this time. You might actually wake up and finally see what's truly going on.
    The fact that you call everyone who disagrees with you a liberal is telling of how small-minded your understanding of politics is.
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