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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They are legally family. That is part of law. You don't have to believe they are family, but the law recognizes them as such.
    They are not legally family in over 30 states unless the court declares them such...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The remainder had to do with the war...
    It had to do with limiting states rights, war or not. It still did that and that is how it has been used since that time. Now, there are certainly many times when laws have been challenged on the basis of a 14th Amendment (normally EPC) violation and the laws have stood. When the laws are affirmed as constitutional it generally has been found that the state can show a legitimate state interest furthered in the restrictions/laws.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    They are not legally family in over 30 states unless the court declares them such...
    Two people of the opposite sex who are childless are legally family. And this fact goes into why those restrictions on marriage are unconstitutional.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It had to do with limiting states rights, war or not. It still did that and that is how it has been used since that time. Now, there are certainly many times when laws have been challenged on the basis of a 14th Amendment (normally EPC) violation and the laws have stood. When the laws are affirmed as constitutional it generally has been found that the state can show a legitimate state interest furthered in the restrictions/laws.
    Yes, how it has been "used" is the operative word...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Yes, how it has been "used" is the operative word...
    And since there has been no legitimate push to change how it is being used, that means that most people agree with that usage, even if you don't.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Two people of the opposite sex who are childless are legally family. And this fact goes into why those restrictions on marriage are unconstitutional.
    The courts had not declared such as of yet...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And since there has been no legitimate push to change how it is being used, that means that most people agree with that usage, even if you don't.
    Who the **** can push the court? They're not elected and do not represent the citizens...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The courts had not declared such as of yet...
    It's only a matter of time. All it will take is a challenge to one of those states' bans. (Which will likely take a few years to reach the SCOTUS.) When that happens, it is highly likely that those laws will be struck down in a Loving or Lawrence like decision.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Who the **** can push the court? They're not elected and do not represent the citizens...
    All it would take would be another Constitutional Amendment. That is all it takes to overcome the SCOTUS. If there is enough support for a more restrictive interpretation of the 14th Amendment, then it shouldn't be that hard to enact an Amendment to reflect that.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It's only a matter of time. All it will take is a challenge to one of those states' bans. (Which will likely take a few years to reach the SCOTUS.) When that happens, it is highly likely that those laws will be struck down in a Loving or Lawrence like decision.
    I'm glad that you're content to be ruled by courts, but I'm not. If you want legitimacy, take the proper route and enact an amendment...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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