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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Godwin's Law invoked. I don't know that if Hitler really did what you claim, but it's not impossible. I'm sure that even Hitler was right once in a while.
    Bob, Bob...tsk tsk. Sure, even a broken clock is right twice a day, but using it for that purpose is counter-productive. Invoking Godwin's Law was right on the money, but the tail end of your reply?? You are better than that.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Lol"......typical of left idelogly demonize those who suppose your ideas
    SS avatars - and frankly SS forum names - deserve demonization. By the way, your post made no sense, either grammatically or in terms of content.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Since the topic of legalized polygamy has always been hopelessly muddled with the topic of gay marriage, I've never actually seen a clean set of arguments for and against it. To be honest I'd be very happy if this were to be such a thread.
    polygamy is socially destructive. By creating larger populations of young unmarried and unlikely to marry males, it increases violence and destabilizes society.

    And then, I agree with what Captain Courtesy says about the provision of stable rearing environments for children with the final exception of:

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Courtesy
    Polygamy as a reaction to homosexual marriage is a smokescreen and an invalid comparison
    Where I continue to point out that - because SSM advocates rather than seeking to convince the populace of the rightness of their definition seek to create a universal right to marriage, there by negating the right of the majority to define marriage in ways that minorities disapprove of or refuse to live by, that the comparison is valid and created by the choice of a judicial, rather than a legislative path for SSM implementation.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But the interesting part is that absolutely no country that has legalized Gay Marriage have made any attempt whatsoever to discuss legalization of polygamy, bestiality or adult - child marriage.
    Have you ever heard of a country called "Great Britain"?

    You can't get married to your second or third 16 year old cousin in the country, mind. You have to fly back to ole homeland Pakistan for that. But then? Show me the money, baby.

    UK legally recognises multiple Islamic wives

    Polygamous marriages conducted by Muslims outside the UK are reported to have been given legal recognition by the British government, even allowing husbands who bring more than one wife to the country to claim welfare benefits.... Four governmental departments - the Treasury, Department for Work and Pensions, HM Revenues and Customs and the Home Office - were involved in the review, launched by ministers in November 2006 after it had emerged that some families benefited financially from the arrangement....

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has issued new guidelines for income support which state: "Where there is a valid polygamous marriage the claimant and one spouse will be paid the couple rate... The amount payable for each additional spouse is presently 33.65 pounds ($66.41)."

    If the family agrees, income support for all of the wives may be paid directly into the husband's bank account. A husband with many wives may also be eligible for additional housing benefit and council tax benefit under the deal agreed by ministers, in order to reflect the larger property needed for his family....

    Agreeably, Great Britain has yet to legalize SSM - the bills are pending. But does anyone honestly thing it is anything but foregone?

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    SS avatars - and frankly SS forum names - deserve demonization. By the way, your post made no sense, either grammatically or in terms of content.
    lol... your continued obsession with me, is very delightful, i see it leaves with something of substance talk about.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    polygamy is socially destructive. By creating larger populations of young unmarried and unlikely to marry males, it increases violence and destabilizes society.
    You are obviously quite ignorant on this topic and the word itself. Quit allowing yourself to be influenced by highly visible wackos and really research the poly community. Our families are just as likely to consist of a female with multiple males as well as groups of multiple of both genders. Violence in not a hallmark of our families. It is a notable trait of the fringe religious kooks. Otherwise it's no more common than among monos. Using groups like the FLDS's to judge all of the poly community by is like using skinheads to judge all Caucasians by.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    You are obviously quite ignorant on this topic and the word itself. Quit allowing yourself to be influenced by highly visible wackos and really research the poly community. Our families are just as likely to consist of a female with multiple males as well as groups of multiple of both genders. Violence in not a hallmark of our families. It is a notable trait of the fringe religious kooks. Otherwise it's no more common than among monos. Using groups like the FLDS's to judge all of the poly community by is like using skinheads to judge all Caucasians by.
    I didn't bring up the FLDS's - you did. Everything I said remains fairly well-based in our historical experience. The idea that there is an equal likelihood of polygamous society being polyandrous a polygynous is (as near as I can tell) neither based in human nature, nor a study of human history. Polygamous societies do produce relatively large populations of young men for whom there are no women, decreasing social stability, increasing rates of violence, and decreasing innovation and growth as effort is turned towards competition with other males. Within the families themselves, Captain Courtesy is correct - competition for favor and resources produces a less stable environment for the rearing of children.

    As for those religious kooks - you may want to be nicer to them. If this is really a policy goal of yours, they are actually your best bet.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I didn't bring up the FLDS's - you did. Everything I said remains fairly well-based in our historical experience. The idea that there is an equal likelihood of polygamous society being polyandrous a polygynous is (as near as I can tell) neither based in human nature, nor a study of human history. Polygamous societies do produce relatively large populations of young men for whom there are no women, decreasing social stability, increasing rates of violence, and decreasing innovation and growth as effort is turned towards competition with other males. Within the families themselves, Captain Courtesy is correct - competition for favor and resources produces a less stable environment for the rearing of children.

    As for those religious kooks - you may want to be nicer to them. If this is really a policy goal of yours, they are actually your best bet.
    I doubt that would ever become a problem here in the US. I doubt if enough people would be having polygamous relationships in our country. There are probably so few that actually practice polygamy in this country that it's not even worth the trouble it might be to legalize it.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Should Plural Marriage be legalized too?
    sure

    consenting adults engaged in activities that hurt no one should be legal



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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, you are diverting the issue since your knowledge on the topic is absent... and you won't admit it.
    Homosexuals cannot create their own families. Not together. Not naturally.

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    It's a waste of MY time to discuss a topic with someone like you who doesn't understand it.
    Actually, it's a waste of your time to peddle the notion of gay marriage to a Christian Conservative.

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