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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    But it is logical to note the parallels and how the same arguments are being used against the various specific marriages.
    Logical when advocating for such marriages like polygamy, sure. Logical when discussing same-sex marriage, as was your original claim? No.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Logical when advocating for such marriages like polygamy, sure. Logical when discussing same-sex marriage, as was your original claim? No.
    No I meant that I agree that interracial marriage, SSM, and polygamy are all different arguments, with difference basis. But the arguments against them are all the same ones for the most part.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I disagree. I think it is perfectly reasonable. If you are related, then no marriage for you!
    I disagree. I think it is perfectly reasonable. If you are the same gender, then no marriage for you!

    I disagree. I think it is perfectly reasonable. If you are different races, then no marriage for you!

    Way too easy. You use the exact same arguments that were used against SSM and interracial marriage.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    I disagree. I think it is perfectly reasonable. If you are the same gender, then no marriage for you!

    I disagree. I think it is perfectly reasonable. If you are different races, then no marriage for you!

    Way too easy. You use the exact same arguments that were used against SSM and interracial marriage.
    No, you aren't supposed to be sexually attracted to your relatives. That is a sickness.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, you aren't supposed to be sexually attracted to your relatives. That is a sickness.
    No, you aren't supposed to be sexually attracted to your gender. That is a sickness.

    No, you aren't supposed to be sexually attracted to other races. That is a sickness.

    Remember those arguments? They were used already. Well you might be too young to remember the racial one.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    No, you aren't supposed to be sexually attracted to your gender. That is a sickness.

    No, you aren't supposed to be sexually attracted to other races. That is a sickness.

    Remember those arguments? They were used already. Well you might be too young to remember the racial one.
    No I don't, and you are wrong.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No I don't, and you are wrong.
    I'm wrong on what? That people used to argue that being attracted to one's own gender was considered a sickness? Try again, it was in the DSM at one point as a mental illness. Go back and look at some of the protest against interracial marriage. It was called "sick, "perverted", "against nature" and so much more.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    No I meant that I agree that interracial marriage, SSM, and polygamy are all different arguments, with difference basis. But the arguments against them are all the same ones for the most part.
    No they're not. The arguments are very much different for why the legal restrictions in the laws further a state interest and what state interest is being furthered.

    No rational person would argue that allowing two people of the same sex or of two different races to marry would cause legitimate legal issues or would change legally how marriage/spousal recognition operated. No rational person would try to argue legitimately that same sex restrictions or different race restrictions are in place to protect women and children from abuse that is seen in the most prevalent instances of polygamy. These are the legal reasons being argued for why there are restrictions on how many people are allowed to enter into a marriage/be considered spouses. These do match the legal reasons argued for why either race or sex/gender were/are restrictions on marriage. Race was argued as being about the children and the fact that the children of mixed race couples faced problems due to their mixed race and same sex restrictions are being legally argued as a procreation is the reason for marriage.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I disagree. I think it is perfectly reasonable. If you are related, then no marriage for you!
    Why related?

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    No I meant that I agree that interracial marriage, SSM, and polygamy are all different arguments, with difference basis. But the arguments against them are all the same ones for the most part.
    The argument against interracial marriage was to preserve racial purity and prevent a mongrel breed. Where do you see that argument applied against SSM or polygamy?

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