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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    I am going to have to disagree with you on these points. First off, do you have any research that shows that polygamous marriages, not counting idiot cultist that throw pedophilia in with their marriages, counter these vested interest?
    There is no research that supports it. Until there is, I see no reason for the government to sanction it... since my argument for sanctioning SSM is from a research based position.

    Further, my orientation explanation explains the lack of equivalency issue.

    There is nothing about polygamy in any combination that would run counter to this. The fact that there are more adults to go to, in fact, would indicate that the child would have more options to talk to someone with whom they were comfortable with when problems arise, leading to more stability in their lives.

    Again there is nothing about polygamy that runs counter to this point.
    From what I said in post #9:

    Further, the inconsistency in caretaking responsibilities and in child rearing responsibilities, compounded by the hierarchies and rivalries will harm the children, affecting their functioning. We already see some of this in divorced families, where inconsistent rules, non-existent co-parenting, and rivalries, negatively affect children.
    These are all things that would run counter to the point in polygamy.

    These things exist in monogamous as well as polygamous marriages, even without looking at outside relationship/affairs occurring.
    False equivalency as I explained above.

    I will agree with you that the reasoning behind SSM should not be the same for the reasoning for polgamy, however, I will disagree with it not being an "orientation" for lack of a better term. Having been part of the poly community for quite a number of years, I have met people who would not be able to hold anything other than a monogamous relationship, those who will need poly relationships and those in between as well as those who want no romantic relationships. This parallels straight, gay and bi as well as asexual quite nicely as a analogy. Likewise, while individuals are attracted to these types of relationships, none require them for survival, any more than a given individual requires sex for survival.
    That is a very different type of need from a sexual orientation. The orientation is whether they are attracted to males or females, NOT how many.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The libertarian argument for polygamy is that the state should have no place in any marriage.
    Well that statement I can agree with in general. Marriage contracts should be treated the same as any other contract. The only place for government on this one is in the judicial system to help settle contract disputes.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Since marriage is not about creating a family but raising a family, your entire post is inaccurate and irrelevant.
    In liberal bizarro world that post is irrelevant, but in a healthy, normal society, marriage is about creating AND raising a family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Should Plural Marriage be legalized too?
    what consenting adults do amonst themselves shouldn't be any of our business.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Should Plural Marriage be legalized too?
    The government has no business granted special privileges to married people but as long as they do they should be giving those benefits out to homosexuals and polygamists as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what consenting adults do amonst themselves shouldn't be any of our business.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    In liberal bizarro world that post is irrelevant, but in a healthy, normal society, marriage is about creating AND raising a family.
    Where you aware that same sex couples can create and raise families?
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Thinking like a true liberal. Thank you for your honesty.
    Oscar is a liberal now? LoLz...
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Thinking like a true liberal. Thank you for your honesty.
    dude...I'm not a liberal
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Oscar is a liberal now? LoLz...
    I've been accused of being many things in my time on da interwebz, but until now "liberal" has never been one of them
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