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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    No.

    It is not possible for two men to be married. By definition, marriage has always been, is, and will always be a union between a man and a woman. It is the basis of every stable human society that ever has or ever will exist.

    My concern is over the severe damage that will unavoidably be done to our society, and to everyone in it, if we are forced to accept a sick, vulgar mockery of marriage as being in any way comparable to the real thing. Our society can only be as stable as its foundation. If we make our foundation out of garbage, then that is what our society will become.
    By who's definition? Don't tell me you're so naive to think that there's only one way of viewing marriage in world? Don't tell me for example that you think a rapist and his victim constitutes a "marriage"



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    28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[c] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

    Sure its a man and woman, but is that marriage to you?

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    No.

    It is not possible for two men to be married. By definition, marriage has always been, is, and will always be a union between a man and a woman. It is the basis of every stable human society that ever has or ever will exist.

    My concern is over the severe damage that will unavoidably be done to our society, and to everyone in it, if we are forced to accept a sick, vulgar mockery of marriage as being in any way comparable to the real thing. Our society can only be as stable as its foundation. If we make our foundation out of garbage, then that is what our society will become.
    This is something you have never been able to successfully prove, and when your position on this is shown to be idiotic, you just repeat the same old inaccurate garbage without substantiating anything. It's a real bad way to debate, but if that's what you can do... unless you'd like to try to prove your position, just once.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    No.

    It is not possible for two men to be married. By definition, marriage has always been, is, and will always be a union between a man and a woman. It is the basis of every stable human society that ever has or ever will exist.

    My concern is over the severe damage that will unavoidably be done to our society, and to everyone in it, if we are forced to accept a sick, vulgar mockery of marriage as being in any way comparable to the real thing. Our society can only be as stable as its foundation. If we make our foundation out of garbage, then that is what our society will become.
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    I guess this is where we differ. I don't think marriage was designed to benefit the state. It's for the individuals involved.

    There's no rational reason to not allow polygamists to marry. It's not like they can't live together and raise a family regardless, so why not let them exercise their relationship the way they choose?

    Giving them the marriage title or not won't change their actions in raising their kids or "effecting society", but it will go far into giving them a sense of equality.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    The legal nightmare it would present
    Please elaborate. Thank you.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Should Plural Marriage be legalized too?
    Absolutely.

    Why not?

    If its a truly consenting relationship, any configuration is fine with me.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    The legal nightmare it would present, as well as societal standards and customs.
    Well we CAN'T imcomvenience the state!

    Heaven forbid.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Son, have you ever read the bible? This couldn't be more false.
    I'm not your son.

    And where does the Bible describe any marriage that is not between a man and a woman? Where does the bible even suggest that marriage can be anything other than between a man and a woman?
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I'm not your son.

    And where does the Bible describe any marriage that is not between a man and a woman? Where does the bible even suggest that marriage can be anything other than between a man and a woman?
    Wiseone posted you a nice little chart in post #21. The bible condones many different types of marriage, to include polygamy. Polygamy has been around for thousands and thousands of years, in many different societies and cultures, such as among the hebrews, the chinese, the greeks, indians, native americans, africans, polynesians, etc.

    Marriage has been a LOT of things to a LOT of different people. You don't get to patent it and own the term.

    Do you still support the rapist:victim marriage law, or the war bride law? Or have you decided which biblical marriage laws you like to support and which you like to ignore?
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Let me guess, you're one of those people who think when two men you don't even know are married it somehow affects your own marriage?
    Stop messing with their WORD man.

    It upsets them.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    The idea with American legal marriage (IMO) is so there is a default position for situations where another decision-maker/legal representative is needed. When someone is incapacitated their spouse can make decisions for them, no paperwork needed. When someone dies intestate their spouse defaults to inherit. There are many situations like this and most of them can't be settled with more than one spouse. So, I actually have no moral issues with polygamy and, if the parties involved file the necessary extra papers required to resolve all these legal issues that have already been settled in common law for married couples, THEN I have no problem with it. But just just leave it open like any other married couple regardless of gender, no. Either require the extra paperwork or add the necessary laws to cover the common laws existing married couples already live under.
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