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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    It's perfectly fine for you to bring that up, but you made it sound like two issues should never be discussed in the same thread.

    Please tell us about these personal, social and psychological effects.
    I have never stated, claimed, or suggested that they should not be discussed in the same thread. What I have said is that trying to tie one to the other is inaccurate, and the slippery slope "if SSM, the polygamy" is flat out false. CC does a decent job of laying out some of the fundamental differences in post # 9. From a legal standpoint they would be considered separately and decided on potentially quite different grounds(would polygamy even be considered for 14th amendment protection?).
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Polygamy has been practiced in numerous countries and throughout history (oh...add in the obligatory "without ruining the institution of marriage" argument). Precedence-wise, there is far better foundation for allowing for polygamy than there is gay marriage. Arguing for one and not the other is rather...goofy.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Of course. Why shouldn't consenting adults be able to marry multiple partners if they want? All of you are just thinking of situations such as have occurred within the extremist Mormon community and you are applying it to ALL polygamist marriages.

    I saw a documentary once about a woman who had two boyfriends and they all lived together and wanted to be married. So it's not always a dirty old man with 6 teenage wives. Of course all of the same laws would apply regarding minors and things like that.

    It's funny too that people are SO concerned with that aspect when men ALREADY marry minors. Why would a polygamy situation make one MORE apt to be taken advantage of than just a marriage between two?

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Sane, consenting adults should be able to do ANYTHING they want to each other.

    If a guy wants to marry 50 different women - and they all agree - go ahead.

    Just make sure they are all sane adults.


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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Sane, consenting adults should be able to do ANYTHING they want to each other.

    If a guy wants to marry 50 different women - and they all agree - go ahead.

    Just make sure they are all sane adults.


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    I think the critical part here is "Sane"... if a guy wants to marry 50 women... then you cant say he is sane..
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    Consenting adults should be able to marry whomever they want.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    To simplify it way down: is 2 the same thing as more than 2? If the answer is no, then they are not the same thing.
    In the context of this argument, two and more than two are the same since both are completely arbitrary. The reason that traditional marriage infers a quantity of two is because it is based on the dissimilarity of the genders, therefore, the qualitative infers the quantitative. If you alter the qualitative aspect of marriage, as SSM does, then you also alter the quantitative. Since SSM marriage is based on similarity, rather than dissimilarity, then the inferred quantity is entirely arbitrary. Polygamy is not a slippery slope argument. It is logically inferred.

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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by csense View Post
    In the context of this argument, two and more than two are the same since both are completely arbitrary. The reason that traditional marriage infers a quantity of two is because it is based on the dissimilarity of the genders, therefore, the qualitative infers the quantitative. If you alter the qualitative aspect of marriage, as SSM does, then you also alter the quantitative. Since SSM marriage is based on similarity, rather than dissimilarity, then the inferred quantity is entirely arbitrary. Polygamy is not a slippery slope argument. It is logically inferred.
    Bull****. The reason mixed sex marriage is two is irrelevant. Likewise same sex marriage. The fact that polygamy is not between just two people makes it different. All 3 types of marriage are dissimilar and need to be examined separately. It is very much a slippery slope argument since it is a different legal and moral and logical argument from SSM and from mixed sex marriage.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Except it is not fuzzy logic, unless you think two different things should be considered the same.
    True. That's why marriage should be heterosexual only, because that and homosexuality are two different things.
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    re: What about the polygamists!?! [W:693]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Consenting adults should be able to marry whomever they want.
    You'll get your wish soon enough. I suspect it won't be too long before marriage will become more commonplace than dating.

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