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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Why would it have to be classified/licensed as a "retail store" if it's private (as opposed to OTTP)?
    No. Retail stores have to be classified as public accommodations.

    The overall point is that public accommodations law is an absurd distinction. Its a made-up category used to prevent certain businesses from exercising their full property rights.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The word "property" is not written in the Declaration. The Declaration reads "pursuit of happiness". You really should have your eyes checked.
    that's what it means my friend.........my eyes are good, you need to read the founders.

    Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation, commonly called the first law of nature.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    No. Retail stores have to be classified as public accommodations.

    The overall point is that public accommodations law is an absurd distinction. Its a made-up category used to prevent certain businesses from exercising their full property rights.
    And I'll ask again. Why would a private company have to be licensed as a retail store?


    It's probably a category used for the most common type of store - where the owners are more concerned with making money than they are making social and political statements.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    And I'll ask again. Why would a private company have to be licensed as a retail store?


    It's probably a category used for the most common type of store - where the owners are more concerned with making money than they are making social and political statements.
    i answer this already....to prevent fraud, misrepresentation, to adhere to health and safety codes.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that's what it means my friend.........my eyes are good, you need to read the founders.
    All I need to do is read what was signed, which is what you should be doing, too.


    When multiple people sign a contract the only way to change the contract is if all participants agree to the change. On person or even a small minority of the people cannot change the contract on their own. Time and again you have failed to understand this simple concept, which still holds to this very day. You can quibble and whine all you want but the written contract is what was signed and, on it's fact, is obviously what was meant by all involved at the time. I have no interest in what some of those people thought they were signing anymore than I would believe the used car salesman promising a 2-yr warranty. If it's not in the contract then you have no ground to stand on.



    BTW
    Samual Adams =/= Thomas Jefferson

    Go ahead and read all of Jefferson's works - I'm pretty sure you won't find it in there. I like Jefferson and have read a lot of his letters, especially those between him and Madison. But keep hunting. LOL!
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    All I need to do is read what was signed, which is what you should be doing, too.

    Samual Adams =/= Thomas Jefferson


    When multiple people sign a contract the only way to change the contract is if all participants agree to the change. On person or even a small minority of the people cannot change the contract on their own. Time and again you have failed to understand this simple concept, which still holds to this very day. You can quibble and whine all you want but the written contract is what was signed and, on it's fact, is obviously what was meant by all involved at the time. I have no interest in what some of those people thought they were signing anymore than I would believe the used car salesman promising a 2-yr warranty. If it's not in the contract then you have no ground to stand on.
    well when the men who were there at the signing ,put there name on the DOI says it means property, ....i have to believe them..............Samuel Adams was there..he says its property

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well when the men who were there at the signing ,put there name on the DOI says it means property, ....i have to believe them..............Samuel Adams was there..he says its property
    Does Jefferson say that? Does everyone else that signed it say that?

    See my edit above ...
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    And I'll ask again. Why would a private company have to be licensed as a retail store?


    It's probably a category used for the most common type of store - where the owners are more concerned with making money than they are making social and political statements.
    Because that is what the law requires of companies wanting to enter the retail business. You cannot have a retail store and call it something else to avoid public accommodations law. Why are you harping on this? It is really irrelevant to the main point: No company should be prevented from discriminating against its customers.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Does Jefferson say that? Does everyone else that signed it say that?

    See my edit above ...
    The Constitution says property, and that is what matters regarding property rights in this country.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i answer this already....to prevent fraud, misrepresentation, to adhere to health and safety codes.
    That's not an answer. If you want to participate in that strand you should read the entire exchange.
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