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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    To the general welfare clause of course. It's the next logical place to jump when all else fails.
    Have much trouble with reading comprehension? Or do you just not understand the phrase "From where"?
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    No it doesn't. Just because I CAN use my car as a taxi doesn't mean I can slap a taxi sign on top and start carrying passengers for a fee. There are certain qualifications I have to meet first.
    From whence do you (or others) acquire the legitimate authority over others that allows you to tell them what they may do with their car?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trip View Post
    Curiously the government has shown a particularly interest in taxing those businesses and corporations as if they were a person.

    They've allowed them to be sued. They've allowed their assets to be seized. They've allowed them to be taxed, Theyve allowed them to be legislated against. And they have conspicuously and vociferously targeted those businesses. Evidently government believes those businesses should be nothing more than silent sheep for the slaughter.

    Unfortunately all that targeting of those business has led to the necessity to treat them as human beings, with their own right to defend themselves, to protect their assets, and to represent their perspective in the political arena, and that of the mom and pop investors that actually own those businesses.
    Oh, yes, the poor little rich boys.


    I can't tell if you honestly believe that line of garbage or not. If you do I feel pity that you're so myopic in your views.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    From whence do you (or others) acquire the legitimate authority over others that allows you to tell them what they may do with their car?
    It's a simple matter of public safety.


    We've had our discussion of this subject (Stossel) and, honestly, I'm tired of you airing your boring and predictable anarchistic (or minarchistic if you prefer) views using me as a sounding board, so I won't go down this road any further with you.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The Constitution says nothing about equal treatment on other peoples private property when it comes to getting service or gaining access. Try again.
    If its open to the public, its not wholly private. That is the situation agreed to by citizens.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    It's a simple matter of public safety.


    We've had our discussion of this subject (Stossel) and, honestly, I'm tired of you airing your boring and predictable anarchistic (or minarchistic if you prefer) views using me as a sounding board, so I won't go down this road any further with you.
    I see. So you tell us that a person may not use his own car as he wishes, but you're not interested in explaining from where this authority over others originates.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    The Constitution prohibits government from treating people differently regarding their race, sex, or religion. It has nothing to do with property owners. The equal protection clause of the 14th amendment, for example, deals with equal protection of the laws.
    Businesses operate under laws.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    yes... after the civil war the USSC stated that the states have to follow the bill or rights.

    but constitutional law/bill or rights is supreme law, federal/ state laws /regulations ........do not override the bill of rights..unless crimes/health safety are involved.

    my rights are not contingent on whether or not you think i am a moral person (discrimination), now if i am committing a crime, or doing something which could cause a health or safety issue to the people, government can act on my rights.



    were is it at?, discrimination is a moral issue, and government has no moral responsibility concerning the life's of the people, if they did, they could tell you what to eat, drink, smoke, who you could have sex with , how much money you need to save, how you must talk to other people.....and they dont have that power.

    the constitution is clear, and that no person can be put into servitude towards another, unless a crime has been committed, and discrimination is not a crime, its a statutory law, created by government to force us to behave in a social manner.

    your argument is based on what the government has created, but they have no powers in their 18 duties to create such laws, constitutions are not written to limit people or businesses, ..but only to limit governments.
    The do have those powers. We gave it to them. To ensure justice, equal treatment, and regulate commerce.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I see. So you tell us that a person may not use his own car as he wishes, but you're not interested in explaining from where this authority over others originates.
    I could explain what I believe but you'd just sound off with your usual anarchist campaign, again, so why bother? We already know we disagree and we've already resolved our issues inRe the question of this thread. Nothing left to discuss.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I could explain what I believe but you'd just sound off with your usual anarchist campaign, again, so why bother? We already know we disagree and we've already resolved our issues inRe the question of this thread. Nothing left to discuss.
    Good response. Fair enough.

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