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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Sorry, it's not morality. As long as you continue on that note I'll keep denying it.

    Where is the right to property in the Constitution?
    then why is government preforming these actions against people?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    again lack of understanding, i stated the founders cover the constitution is the federalist papers.
    Again, it doesn't stop there. We have another 200 years of history.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    How many times do we need to go over this, really? There is no such thing as equal access to someone else's labor and property. You honestly have no idea how rights work, do you? You can't violate the very foundation of rights and then say that foundation is violation of your rights. It falls on its face as soon as it leaves the gate.

    Everyone has a right to their labor
    Everyone has a right to their property

    Consent MUST be given for you to have access to someone else's labor or property.
    If your correct, why is it happening? I'm sorry, but you're simply ignoring what you don't want to accept.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    An extension?!? LOL! Then if I extend my right to life and kill you before you kill me then that's OK, too, right?
    That would depend on your reason for killing me. Was I attacking you?

    Sorry, nothing anywhere gives you a right to open a business.
    The right to property gives the owner the right to determine the destiny of that property.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If your correct, why is it happening? I'm sorry, but you're simply ignoring what you don't want to accept.
    Because the government is violating peoples rights.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, it doesn't stop there. We have another 200 years of history.
    oh, so if a 20th century judge states something in complete opposition to Madison, he knows more, than Madison becuase of time?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    are you saying people have a right to service and employment?

    an shop owner offers privileges to the public which can be withdrawn.
    They have a right to equality. And yes, the shop owner can close up shop. No one makes they stay in business.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i do have a right to commerce , which is buying or selling.
    Yep! Never said you didn't. I said a company does not have that right.


    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i have to have a license, to prevent fraud, abuse by a business to its customers.... to which i have made a transaction with.
    Exactly, you have to qualify to have a business. You have no right to it.


    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    however i dont have to transact business with people i dont want to.

    if i in my business ,threaten people, harm them, or do something which knowingly dangerous to health and safety, government can charge me with a crime, and discrimination is not a crime.

    if i do something which is not deliberate, like a health and safety issue, government tells me to fix it, or fines me and tells me to fix it, or i am out of business.
    All junk you've pulled from thin air based on your own skewed principles. By going into business you have consented to the business laws of the governing body (and those above it) in which you have license. If you don't like those laws you should work to change them prior to obtaining your license or go somewhere else where the laws are more palatable to you. No one is making you stay and no one is making you open a business in the first place.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Because the government is violating peoples rights.

    sorry crossed thread.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They have a right to equality. And yes, the shop owner can close up shop. No one makes they stay in business.
    If you mean equality in terms of rights, then yes, but otherwise, no.

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