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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    It doesn't matter what the Founder's stated. You keep making the same mistake over and over and over. Only the contract that everyone signed is legal and binding. Opinions are not not signed by all and are, therefore, not binding.


    Again, nothing about property is mentioned. How about using a USSC case? I know you hate that but it's the only out you have left.
    again ......are you saying there is no right to property?...yes or no

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That still has nothing to do with rights. You can not act if there is no rights in question to warrant such action.



    They end where rights begin. You have not even begun to tell me what rights the other party has.

    You have not told me how they have a right to enter and use the property
    You have not told me how they have a right to get service from an non-consenting party.
    You have not told me how deciding not to do commerce with someone is a violation of their rights.

    You have done nothing, but whine and direct me to a court case.
    The rights in question are the rights of minorities to have equal access to service and employment. The employer voluntarily opens shop to provide a service. Doing so means he has to follow all laws that entails.

    The whinnying is on your part, so badly that you do little but exaggerate.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like I said, you stopped. Move in through civil rights.
    again lack of understanding, i stated the founders cover the constitution is the federalist papers.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well i see you went backwards...

    government has no moral authority at all, to stop homosexuality, devil worship or derogatory speech, just becuase they dont like it.

    just becuase i do something you or government does not like, but i am not committing a crime doing it, does not give you or government authority to stop me, by government prohibiting my right to property they are violating constitutional law.
    The government isn't "prohibiting [your] right to property" "just becuase they dont like it".
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The rights in question are the rights of minorities to have equal access to service and employment. The employer voluntarily opens shop to provide a service. Doing so means he has to follow all laws that entails.

    The whinnying is on your part, so badly that you do little but exaggerate.
    How many times do we need to go over this, really? There is no such thing as equal access to someone else's labor and property. You honestly have no idea how rights work, do you? You can't violate the very foundation of rights and then say that foundation is violation of your rights. It falls on its face as soon as it leaves the gate.

    Everyone has a right to their labor
    Everyone has a right to their property

    Consent MUST be given for you to have access to someone else's labor or property.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The rights in question are the rights of minorities to have equal access to service and employment. The employer voluntarily opens shop to provide a service. Doing so means he has to follow all laws that entails.

    The whinnying is on your part, so badly that you do little but exaggerate.
    are you saying people have a right to service and employment?

    an shop owner offers privileges to the public which can be withdrawn.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    really? what is affirmative action.....its government law mandating certain people be hired for a job based on their color, to create an even society by the use of force on business.

    minimum wage what is it....... its government mandated pay, to create a more equable pay for workers on the lower end of the pay scale, by the use of force on business.

    where are government social duties in the constitution?.......no where, so they are using powers they dont have, to make a moral decision, of who gets hired, and how much people are paid, based on what they think.
    Sorry, it's not morality. As long as you continue on that note I'll keep denying it.

    Where is the right to property in the Constitution?
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The government isn't "prohibiting [your] right to property" "just becuase they dont like it".
    then why is government suing people , who dont serve other people....where does government get the authority, to sue people becuase they did not offer serve to people

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Opening up a business is a right. It is an extension of the right to liberty and property.
    An extension?!? LOL! Then if I extend my right to life and kill you before you kill me then that's OK, too, right?


    Sorry, nothing anywhere gives you a right to open a business.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Sorry, it's not morality. As long as you continue on that note I'll keep denying it.

    Where is the right to property in the Constitution?
    9th amendment.

    plus it also u.s.code law, organic law of the u.s.

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