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    Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post

    I agree. I just find it odd that you can be against and for the same type of discrimination based on the type of businesses we are talking about.


    All private property is private and exclusionary by definition.
    1). Because it's not the same type of discrimination. Why?

    2) Because all private property is not private and exclusionary by definition. Here's a fairly obvious example.

    What do you do when you're approaching the closed door of a private residence you'd like to enter?
    And what do you do when you approach the front door of a Starbucks you'd like to enter?
    If your answer to those two questions is not the same, you have implicitly recognized the difference between a public accommodation and a truly private space.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    What do you do when you're approaching the closed door of a private residence you'd like to enter?
    And what do you do when you approach the front door of a Starbucks you'd like to enter?
    If your answer to those two questions is not the same, you have implicitly recognized the difference between a public accommodation and a truly private space.
    That is such stupid logic. What someone is inclined to think and what is are different things.

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    Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why do you believe that I haven't and why do you think it is necessary for me to understand basic logic and the Constitution? As I said, it deals with states and no other party, so go right ahead and explain how its possible it includes any other party. They failed completely to explain their broken ass logic, so have fun.
    Your earlier comments suggest you haven't read the case. Why do you need to understand basic logic? I'm going to assume that was a typo.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Your earlier comments suggest you haven't read the case. Why do you need to understand basic logic? I'm going to assume that was a typo.
    So all you have is to make fun of my careless mistakes? Go figure you have nothing to defend illogical nonsense.

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    Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is such stupid logic. What someone is inclined to think and what is are different things.
    Sometimes what people are inclined to think is what is. What people think and believe impacts the law in a number of ways.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Nope, don't agree at all. We just have to glance around the world today, and look at our own history to know that when discrimination is legal, discrimination is rampant. Equal protection requires that all people in our society are entitled to access the same goods and services, the same jobs, the same housing, etc., regardless of their race, ethnicity, religion, gender, or sexual orientation.

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    Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So all you have is to make fun of my careless mistakes? Go figure you have nothing to defend illogical nonsense.
    I was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you didn't intentionally ask a very stupid question. And I don't have to defend anything because the Supreme Court has already done much more eloquently than I ever could. Again, take a look. You might learn something.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Sometimes what people are inclined to think is what is. What people think and believe impacts the law in a number of ways.
    It however does not affect property rights and the fact that private property is exclusionary by definition.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    In Canada, this type of discrimination would be against our charter of rights and freedoms. Therefore, said business would cease to exist.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    I do think you should read the case because you're right, there's no earthly way I'm going to explain several fairly complicated legal issues to you. Being done with school means that I don't have to write academic papers anymore. Believe me or not, but please stop fooling yourself into believing that you understand this issue if you're unwilling to even look at how and why SCOTUA ruled the way it did.
    Who the **** is SCOTUA?

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