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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Trade isn't forced. No one has to be in business. No one.

    when government forces a citizen, to associate with another citizen against his will, that is rights violation.

    when government uses its power force a business to serve a citizen,..that is involuntary servitude and a rights violation

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    please provide in the constitution/bill of rights were the people are limited in their capacity?

    please tell me how government can force people into servitude, when the constitution forbids it?
    No one is being forced into servitude! Seriously, tone the exaggerations down.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one is being forced into servitude! Seriously, tone the exaggerations down.
    well i dont know how to explain it easier,..............but i will try.....

    you enter my store, and i tell you to get out, becuase i dont serve white people, and you use the government to force me to serve you, or the government will fine me and put me out of business.

    what choice do i have, serve you by involuntary means, .......or have government shut me down.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    God, I hate when I get turned into a gerbil. The wheel is just so goddamn enticing.

    Anyway, already went over that one a dozen or so pages ago. Do you have an argument for what I said or not?
    You don't seem to understand it yet.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    when government forces a citizen, to associate with another citizen against his will, that is rights violation.

    when government uses its power force a business to serve a citizen,..that is involuntary servitude and a rights violation
    No ones doing that. They only do a business transaction. Nothing more. And no one has to go into business.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No ones doing that. They only do a business transaction. Nothing more. And no one has to go into business.
    really?..remember that HI, and WA story i already told.

    business owners being sued by government for not serving people


    this has nothing to do with anything--------->" And no one has to go into business"

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    really?..remember that HI, and WA story i already told.

    business owners being sued by government for not serving people


    this has nothing to do with anything--------->" And no one has to go into business"
    Yep. And no was made o go into business. Only to follow he rules if thy chose to. Nothing more. You're mistaken in how you're trying to frame it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yep. And no was made o go into business. Only to follow he rules if thy chose to. Nothing more. You're mistaken in how you're trying to frame it.
    that's not an answer.

    force is being apply by government, over a moral issue, and government has no authority in the area of morality.

    by the way, people have a right to commerce.....the buying and selling of goods.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that's not an answer.

    force is being apply by government, over a moral issue, and government has no authority in the area of morality.

    by the way, people have a right to commerce.....the buying and selling of goods.
    It's not just a moral issue. It's a commerce issue that has economic impact on those discriminated against. I linked the court cases that showed this.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Never seen one sold in a store.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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