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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i said people can hate, nice try... trying to include me.

    laws which are unconstitutional.

    since you think government is the moral master, would you approve if they made unlawful

    homosexuality

    devil worship

    derogatory speech

    i think you would change your tune very quickly.
    Relax jr. That was the universal you. And moral master is just more silly hyperbole. Try staying within reality.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You mean misunderstanding aggression is your philosophy.

    All, no one s harmed by having to accept paying customers. You're entire argument is making mountains out of ant hills.
    Does any person have the right to force someone to trade with people? If so, how did this person acquire this right?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    So a group of people agreed to something among themselves. By what legitimate authority are they able to impose their decision upon their fellow man?
    Rule of law. Our form of governance.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Does any person have the right to force someone to trade with people? If so, how did this person acquire this right?
    There's no "a person." It's we the people who haven said we don't discriminate in this way. Born out of the civil rights movement.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Rule of law. Our form of governance.
    So a right of the people can be to force other people to trade with them? You don't find that to be a violation of rights?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Relax jr. That was the universal you. And moral master is just more silly hyperbole. Try staying within reality.
    Jr. hardly that......

    many times i read what people post on this forum, and they will advocate that the government has no moral authority to tell them.

    that they cant grow a plant.

    smoke pot.

    tell them who they can marry.

    no authority to carry out a drug war.


    yet is the same breath they will say government has a moral authority for.

    discrimination

    redistribute wealth

    affirmative action

    minimum wage


    government has no social duties per the constitution into the life's of the people or business

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So a right of the people can be to force other people to trade with them? You don't find that to be a violation of rights?
    Nope. Because the right here is the right not be unduly discriminated against. The harm is to the person being discrimnated against and not the merchant who gets to make a profit.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope. Because the right here is the right not be unduly discriminated against. The harm is to the person being discrimnated against and not the merchant who gets to make a profit.
    Facepalm. Forcing someone to trade with someone else is a violation of rights. I can't believe you desire to argue against this. You're basically just argued against the very foundation of rights here.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope. Because the right here is the right not be unduly discriminated against. The harm is to the person being discrimnated against and not the merchant who gets to make a profit.
    no such right exist!

    feelings are not in the constitution

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Jr. hardly that......

    many times i read what people post on this forum, and they will advocate that the government has no moral authority to tell them.

    that they cant grow a plant.

    smoke pot.

    tell them who they can marry.

    no authority to carry out a drug war.


    yet is the same breath they will say government has a moral authority for.

    discrimination

    redistribute wealth

    affirmative action

    minimum wage


    government has no social duties per the constitution into the life's of the people
    You misread a lot. Things meat don't harm others are often properly up to the individual. But this prejudice harms others.

    Your bottom list shows more misunderstandings that would divert if we tackled them here. But you clearly show misunderstandings concerning those issues.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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