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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I see. So it's the sign that removes the business owner's right to his property. That sounds pretty ridiculous, but I suppose a business owner who wishes to maintain his property rights can simply forego the "OPEN TO THE PUBLIC" sign.
    Considering most businesses are open to the public I'd say the owner that wants to discriminate is on the hook for informing people, one way or another, that he will discriminate. A simple sign like ttwtt78640 suggested would be sufficient. I generally avoid places with the "we reserve the right to refuse service" sign.


    Signs are advertising so he "removes" his own rights. Is it OK to have a sign that says "Hamburgers $1" then charge $3 for them?
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Considering most businesses are open to the public I'd say the owner that wants to discriminate is on the hook for informing people, one way or another, that he will discriminate. A simple sign like ttwtt78640 suggested would be sufficient. I generally avoid places with the "we reserve the right to refuse service" sign.
    I'm curious as to what you think gives you (or anyone else) the authority to tell another person what sort of sign he must post on his business or with whom he may engage in trade?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I'm curious as to what you think gives you (or anyone else) the authority to tell another person what sort of sign he must post on his business or with whom he may engage in trade?
    What makes you think a business owner can lie to people with impunity?
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    What makes you think a business owner can lie to people with impunity?
    People assuming things that are false is not the same thing as someone lying them.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    If you want to discriminate then open a private business instead of a public one - problem solved and no laws violated, not even your skewed interpretations of them.
    Well since your statement is not based in reality everything seems to be in order. There is no such thing as a public business that is owned by the citizens.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    People assuming things that are false is not the same thing as someone lying them.
    If you post a sign that says "OPEN" with no qualification then you've made a public statement that anyone could take to be directed at them. If you had an intention of excluding people then it's obviously lying. You're not "OPEN" you're "OPEN TO WHITES ONLY" or whatever.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    If you post a sign that says "OPEN" with no qualification then you've made a public statement that anyone could take to be directed at them. If you had an intention of excluding people then it's obviously lying. You're not "OPEN" you're "OPEN TO WHITES ONLY" or whatever.
    Again, people assuming something is not the same thing as someone lying to them. Don't read to much into stupid signs with only one word on them.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well since your statement is not based in reality everything seems to be in order. There is no such thing as a public business that is owned by the citizens.
    Public as in open to the public.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    There is nothing 'militant' about a boycott. Many in the gay community said don't eat at Chick-Fil-A. They were within their rights to do so.
    The militant part was when they all showed up at Chickfila to make out in order to offend people. Militant might be to strong a word.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Again, people assuming something is not the same thing as someone lying to them. Don't read to much into stupid signs with only one word on them.
    It's not reading anything into it, it just plain English. You're obviously not "open", you're "open to whites".
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