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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Basic fairness. Fairness necessary in a civil society. That which legal remedy exists for unfairness.
    What in the hell does fair mean?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So forcing people to buy insurance to lower the rates of others is somehow a justified course of action for the state to take part in? So you don't find anything wrong with being forced to take part in commerce for the benefit of others? Interesting. You don't find that to be servitude?
    More like not to harm others. Uninsured people dud in fact harm others. And no, it isn't servitude. Those crocodile tears re getting larger and larger.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    More like not to harm others. Uninsured people dud in fact harm others. And no, it isn't servitude. Those crocodile tears re getting larger and larger.
    Harming others by not taking part in commerce?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nonsense. It is nothing of the kind. It's mere civil fairness. The ones abused here were the people refused services for no valid reason. The community would be just to stop going there altogether.

    But, it is not involuntary servitude. Your claim is laughable hyperbole.
    civil fairness?, where is that in the law, and i didn't know such a thing, overrides constitutional law.

    anytime, you are forced to do something against your will by others, that is involuntary servitude.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What in the hell does fair mean?
    I could point you to a good dictionary to save time if you like. But lets start with allowing people the same service without consideration to race. That'll be enough here. But a dictionary might be something to consider.

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    Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    True, but I believe the only ones who would be ostracized are the bigoted business owners, at least in the 21st century. While I may not think its pragmatic to remove the provision at this time, I wouldn't be surprised if we no longer 'needed' such a law in the future. Personally, I believe society (including minorities) would get along great if the law was removed now.
    First, we need to have these laws in place because of historical experience in our republic. I do not trust mankind enough to pretend we are that much more civilized, and icertainly would not trust fanciful rhetoric when our rights are on the line. De Jure segregation did not start segregation, it later accompanied de facto segregation.

    At most you could have a better shot at arguing that about African Americans. The problem is that this provision impacted other minorities being discriminated against. One move in the direction of the libertarian scum would spell disaster for many of us who are still discriminated against on a regular basis.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Basic fairness. Fairness necessary in a civil society. That which legal remedy exists for unfairness.
    so this is a higher power than the constitution itself?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I could point you to a good dictionary to save time if you like. But lets start with allowing people the same service without consideration to race. That'll be enough here. But a dictionary might be something to consider.
    What someone considers fair or unfair is entirely subjective. Stop being a mindless liberal thinking the words fair or fairness are clearly defined.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    civil fairness?, where is that in the law, and i didn't know such a thing, overrides constitutional law.

    anytime, you are forced to do something against your will by others, that is involuntary servitude.
    Most unwritten laws do. Always have. But try to stay focused on the point I was actually making. They denied services without just cause. The behaved unfairly and those abused took legal recourse. This is proper and not unusual.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I could point you to a good dictionary to save time if you like. But lets start with allowing people the same service without consideration to race. That'll be enough here. But a dictionary might be something to consider.
    you point to me, where fair is listed in the constitution?

    fairness is a state of mind, ....becuase it cannot be determined, becuase what is fair to you, may not be fair to me.

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