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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Shouldn't we bury the past and start fresh?
    The poster above asked how minorities were harmed by social ostracization. I'm not sure that sentiment is applicable.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by boo radley View Post
    again, no one is in involuntary servitude. It's extremely hyperbolic and dishonest to pretend they are.
    really, if i am forced (by government) to do something against my will, ...and i have not committed a crime........is that not involuntary servitude

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There's that silly hyperbole agin. Servitude? Glenn Beck would be so proud.

    That's complete nonsense. No one says anyone has to provide a service or sell a product. There is a legal transaction. The poor fellows get to make money. I'm sorry, but I can't take this seriously as long as the exaggerates are this extreme.
    So the transaction itself isn't servitude if forced to occur? Interesting.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    really, if i am forced (by government) to do something against my will, ...and i have not committed a crime........is that not involuntary servitude
    No one forces you to Be in business at all. Not only that, but your paid. You claim is as silly as Adrian Petersen comparing himself as a professional football player to being a slave. He was made fun of fir that silliness. So should any making you claim.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So the transaction itself isn't servitude if forced to occur? Interesting.
    It's not forced. You don't have to be in business at all.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Ozone forces you to Be in business at all. Not only that, but your paid. You claim is as silly as Adrian Petersen comparing himself as a professional football player to being a slave. He was made fun of fir that silliness. So should any making you claim.
    Involuntary servitude is not dependent upon compensation or its amount. You can very well be an involuntary servant and be paid for your service.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by boo radley View Post
    ozone forces you to be in business at all. Not only that, but your paid. You claim is as silly as adrian petersen comparing himself as a professional football player to being a slave. He was made fun of fir that silliness. So should any making you claim.
    your going off on a lark!

    I am stating a simple principle here, and that is governments have no authority to force....... A citizen into involuntary servitude unless a crime has been committed...........that is what the u.s. Constitution .....states.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Involuntary servitude is not dependent upon compensation or its amount. You can very well be an involuntary servant and be paid for your service.
    It is dependent in being voluntary. No one has to be in business. So someone who c hoses to be in business and sets a payment others meet is not in involuntary servitude. Can't you see your own dishonest exaggeration?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    your going off on a lark!

    I am stating a simple principle here, and that is governments have no authority to force....... A citizen into involuntary servitude unless a crime has been committed...........that is what the u.s. Constitution .....states.
    Which no one is doing, at all, in any way.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's not forced. You don't have to be in business at all.
    Yes, I have already been around that tree. The argument is essentially saying people don't have right to pursue their happiness in the way they see fit, but instead must avoid it if they believe in a certain way.

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