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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Some forms are. Some aren't. The blanket approach in the form of excusing any form is a foolish one.
    Any form that does not directly harm individuals should be legal in an ideal world. But as I stated, I don't think Paul and Stossel should even be taking on this issue.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nonsense. You have to actually she someone abused. Having more customers is hardly abuse.
    Are you purposely ignoring the desires of the business to associate with who they wish? Why does it even matter if your actions cause them to have more customers to the point at hand that you're actively violating their rights?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    I was referring more broadly to society and the legal system.
    Society in general does not tolerate discrimination in the 21st century. Societal pressures are enough to keep such scumbags out of business.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Are you purposely ignoring the desires of the business to associate with who they wish? Why does it even matter if your actions cause them to have more customers to the point at hand that you're actively violating their rights?
    Again, they don't have to hang out be friends. So association isn't what we're talking about. We're talking about not discriminating due to race.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, they don't have to hang out be friends. So association isn't what we're talking about. We're talking about not discriminating due to race.
    Doing business with someone is associating with that person. If someone is forced to do business with someone they do not desire to business with by government force the government is violating that persons right to association.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Doing business with someone is associating with that person. If someone is forced to do business with someone they do not desire to business with by government force the government is violating that persons right to association.
    No, it's selling a product or service, not associating. To do that, you might make a case fir going into business with, but no law says you have to do that. There is no real violation here. It's an exaggeration to try and paint it that way.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it's selling a product or service, not associating. To do that, you might make a case fir going into business with, but no law says you have to do that. There is no real violation here. It's an exaggeration to try and paint it that way.
    To do business with someone what must I do? Associate with that person.

    Yes, I'm just going to take his order for breakfast and I'm not going to associate with him. Are you serious?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    To do business with someone what must I do? Associate with that person.
    No, give product and take money. Little more.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, give product and take money. Little more.
    So I got his order how?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So I got his order how?
    The waitress took it, who likely didn't mind.


    1 : to join as a partner, friend, or companion

    2 : (obsolete) to keep company with : attend

    3: to join or connect together : combine

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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