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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I think we get segregation because people of all backgrounds tend to associate with by people who are like them.
    And that worked out so well you want to reinstate it? Segregation was a racist concept from the start. It was not about culture.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    What about the SBA? Not white enough for you?
    What categories of business set asides are covered for married white men? I have a small role in hiring technical people and I cannot recall a single set aside for a white guy unless that white male is also a veteran. Maybe it just never came up.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Well, first of all, the Bill of Rights was a restriction on the State.

    Secondly, there are already hate clubs in existence and they are perfectly legal. If you are talking about business, they will follow the fate of Chick-Fil-A.
    CFA doesn't discriminate, however. They just take a moral stance. Last I checked, they still can and do employ homosexuals.

    I hate smoking, but I've hired smokers before.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Peer pressure did not work for 100's of years and now you think it will?
    Why are you stuck in the past? That period of history, is, well... history!

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Letting people be racist is how we got segregation.
    No.

    There was so much resentment following the freeing of slaves. Generations of both colors passed on their hatred. We now have shed our hatred caused by the past. those issues no longer apply.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Agreed. then someone's rights infringe on another person's rights. Something is clearly wrong. So why are we denying people freedom of association?
    What is clearly wrong is racism and a civilized society cannot accept it. You can't rape or murder either. Is that also a problem for you?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Hasn't Chick-fil-A grown?
    I am talking about the scenario a previous poster proposed (not allowing blacks and gays in).
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And that worked out so well you want to reinstate it? Segregation was a racist concept from the start. It was not about culture.
    People throughout time have been tribal. Look around you today. Athletes with athletes, cheerleaders with cheerleaders, nerds with nerds (what other choice did we have?), blacks with blacks... it is the way of humanity.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    CFA doesn't discriminate, however. They just take a moral stance. Last I checked, they still can and do employ homosexuals.
    As mentioned to Mister, I was responding to a hypothetical.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    As mentioned to Mister, I was responding to a hypothetical.
    I skipped the last 15 pages.

    If it's inapplicable, we'll just pretend that my statement is a stand-alone and forget about it.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I was speaking in general, of such proposed laws, that discrimination is actionable "if" someone perceives it so.

    That is my point. Equality should not be special! You cannot create "equality" by giving minorities tools to use against the majority! Tools get abused!
    We know equality doesn't just happen. Where we can treat people unequally, we do. And it is not special rights to protect equality. Whatever else you may or may not be referring to is meaningless as it isn't the topic.

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