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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Like any disease, it needs to run it's course. as long as you violate peoples freedoms in the name of equality, you will never have equality. you cannot make that resentment disappear. Let people be racist, and those remaining decades later will have no new friends. Peer pressure will eliminate more than can be eliminated by law.
    Peer pressure did not work for 100's of years and now you think it will? Letting people be racist is how we got segregation.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    For those who agree with Paul and Stossel, if YOU could get away with it legally, which groups would YOU discriminate against, and why?

    Be honest.

    (My spidey-sense tells me no one will have the backbone to answer this.)
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Maybe so but that would not stop others from capitalizing on hatred and creating Hate clubs that discriminate openly, making a mockery of the bill of rights.
    Well, first of all, the Bill of Rights was a restriction on the State.

    Secondly, there are already hate clubs in existence and they are perfectly legal. If you are talking about business, they will follow the fate of Chick-Fil-A.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    There are plenty of places today that will accept people of all color. Why do you want people to use the force of law to go in where they aren't wanted? Today, racist places will not be common, or prosper.
    Why do want to support racists having a place to go? Is that what you think they deserve? Anyway a "private" business is far from private if it is open to the public.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You mean you despise the govt. That's a very different thing.
    No. I meant exactly what I said.

    I will copy and paste it slowly for you: "Well, how do you deal with the fact that I am treated as a second class citizen by my government every single day? I am white. I am male. I am married. I pay lots of taxes. My government despises me and treats me as a cash cow."

    Why isn't there a category for small, disadvantaged business owned by a married, white male? We have them for women, for blacks, for disabled, for just about every category except for married, white male owned...
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Peer pressure did not work for 100's of years and now you think it will? Letting people be racist is how we got segregation.
    I think we get segregation because people of all backgrounds tend to associate with by people who are like them.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    No. I meant exactly what I said.

    I will copy and past it slowly for you: "Well, how do you deal with the fact that I am treated as a second class citizen by my government every single day? I am white. I am male. I am married. I pay lots of taxes. My government despises me and treats me as a cash cow."

    Why isn't there a category for small, disadvantaged business owned by a married, white male? We have them for women, for blacks, for disabled, for just about every category except for married, white male owned...
    What about the SBA? Not white enough for you?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Equality should never be seen as special. It is not racist to say that all people should be able to go to dinner or shop or see a movie without being denied due to race. It takes a special kind of skewed logic to call those who want equality as racist.
    I was speaking in general, of such proposed laws, that discrimination is actionable "if" someone perceives it so.

    That is my point. Equality should not be special! You cannot create "equality" by giving minorities tools to use against the majority! Tools get abused!

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Well, first of all, the Bill of Rights was a restriction on the State.

    Secondly, there are already hate clubs in existence and they are perfectly legal. If you are talking about business, they will follow the fate of Chick-Fil-A.
    Hasn't Chick-fil-A grown? Do businesses and citizens no longer have the right to counter bullying from liberal special interest groups? In Huntsville at the only location I am aware of it was impossible to go there for lunch because the lines were so long.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Its' not about liberals it's about civilization. In a civilized world people cannot always behave the way they want too. That's what civilization means.
    Agreed. then someone's rights infringe on another person's rights. Something is clearly wrong. So why are we denying people freedom of association?

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