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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    I completely disagree. Economic discrimination on race and gender should remain illegal.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer
    I don't buy it at all. If you wish to allow people to practice racial discrimination, you sympathize with these scum to at least some degree.
    How I feel about someone does not give me the right to take away their freedom of association with the force of law behind me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer
    A right to believe and a right to practice are two entirely different things.

    Analogy: We can not control the private fantasies of a pedophile ... he has the right to harbor his lust for children within his own head. The moment he treads on the rights of a child to be left unmolested he has broken the law and social and moral decency.
    At this point, he does harm to another.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer
    The same could be said of the racist who owns a business. He has the right to believe anything he wants to about race relations but he does not have the right to racially discriminate against his black patrons who have the right not to be discriminated against.
    If you believe he does then you are a de facto racist yourself.
    First off, we all discriminate all the time. Racial discrimination is a discrimination that is not well accepted by most people these days. If such laws were removed from the books, I'm sure you would find very, very few businesses that would effectively have " no black patrons" or "blacks need not apply." In today's world, any business thought to be racist wouldn't be in business long. Maybe a small few would, but really... With so many other places, why does it matter, besides not accepting other people's views?
    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer
    It is absolutely the place for you and I, and all of society to keep the racist from practicing racism just as it is OUR responsibility to stop the pedophile from practicing pedophilia.
    Lead by example then, rather than force of race baiting.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer
    In my honest opinion libertarian-ism is a thinly veiled disguise for racists to wear when confronted with the potential to repeal anti racist law, and i have no stomach for it.
    Well, you can still find racists everywhere. I find most are liberal authoritarians who love to keep blacks underprivileged, so they have a political cause for power.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Bullsquat! Racist businesses did and would still prosper. The "good ole' boy" network as was seen in the Jim Crow days of the south always made sure that the racists were protected and made up for the lack of black patronage.
    In my honest opinion libertarianism is a thinly veiled disguise for racists to wear when presented with the prospect of repealing the laws that prevent the practice of racial discrimination. Like it or not when you condone the return to the legal practice of public racism, it make you look like a racist.
    There is no "liberty" in the free practice of racial discrimination.
    It's people like you who most right leaning people people hate. We have little tolerance for those who punish the many over the sins of a few.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    You are either a part of the problem or you are part of the solution to racism. Call it what you will, you are taking the position of an enabler.
    Yes, and you are part of the problem, by requiring the force of law to support your views.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    How about if I was hiring for the job that you do and I advertised a very high pay for that job .
    When you came down to interview for the position a sign on the door said " LIBERTARIANS NEED NOT APPLY"...
    You'd be okay with that and just go on your way ??
    I wouldn't like it in some aspect, but I know upfront that the employer is an idiot, and it saves me from quitting in the future.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    No, anyone who claims to be against the Civil Rights Act because of a "libertarian" ideology doesn't convince me at all. It makes no sense.
    I thought this discussion was about just part of the act. Not the whole of it...

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Yeah, I guess I am an enabler of free speech as well.
    And freedom of religion.
    And virtually every other freedom we have. I'm such an enabler.



    What a coincidence, we are all against Jim Crow laws, just like everyone else.

    Why am I against Jim Crow laws? Because they dictate who a business owner can't provide custom to

    Why am I against one aspect of CRA 1964? Because it dictates who a business owner must give custom to.

    Both are equally bad.
    Absolutely.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yes, and you are part of the problem, by requiring the force of law to support your views.
    Agree. Initiating aggression is not acceptable, not even to stop people from refusing to interact with the people with whom you want them to.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Why are liberals so authoritarian, forcing people to do things they don't want to?
    Oh, please. Try to be at least a little original.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    The fact that a large number of people want to do something has no bearing on whether that act is ethical. The libertarian position is that it is wrong to initiate aggression. It doesn't matter whether a lot of people wish to do so or a single individual wishes to do so. In either case the initiation of aggression is wrong. A group of people has not special authority that does not belong to any individual.
    Not aggression. Exaggerating doesn't help your cause. And yes, having a majority is better most forms. No where in the world do people love without rules. There are reasons for this.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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