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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Keep living in the past. You will never have a better future if you can't let it go. What I find most appalling of those living in the past, is they blame those of us, and accuse us, who never had part of the past inequities.
    Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. We can all spout these things. But here it is appropriate. We have history that can inform us and promote better decisions in the fortune.

    And as I said, you can this prejudice and exclusion in the present as well.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. We can all spout these things. But here it is appropriate. We have history that can inform us and promote better decisions in the fortune.

    And as I said, you can this prejudice and exclusion in the present as well.
    We have learned from the past. Those who like to wield power have learned how to use the past for political power, especially in race relationships.

    I'm not talking about unlearning the past. I'm talking about not living in the past.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    We have learned from the past. Those who like to wield power have learned how to use the past for political power, especially in race relationships.

    I'm not talking about unlearning the past. I'm talking about not living in the past.
    No one here is. The lesson was the laws we've written. They are the present. It is this e wanting o go back to the past and undo lessons learned who are not in the present.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one here is. The lesson was the laws we've written. They are the present. It is this e wanting o go back to the past and undo lessons learned who are not in the present.
    And there are laws that are either repetitive, or that deny some personal freedoms that are obsolete, and need to be removed.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    And there are laws that are either repetitive, or that deny some personal freedoms that are obsolete, and need to be removed.
    Little is absolute. Not then, not today, and not in the future. People must live together. There will always be rules about that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Little is absolute. Not then, not today, and not in the future. People must live together. There will always be rules about that.
    Why are liberals so authoritarian, forcing people to do things they don't want to?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    No, I do not agree with either Senator Paul or George Stossel.

    While I fully agree that individuals should have the absolute right to choose who they wish to associate with on any basis, including racism, in their personal relationships, I do not agree that this should extend into business or other public activities. As long as a person is not creating a disturbance he/she should be able to enter into any public business arena and participate.

    The examples given by Mr. Stossel presume the person denied service will have easy access to othr similar services elsewhere. Let's take a couple of examples that show this might be a problem.

    Example 1: Traveling cross country in your motor vehicle you notice you need some gasoline. You are out in the middle of the American West on the open road with nary a gas station around when you come accross one. Now lets say this individual happens to dislike whoever you are simply because you have a different skin color and refuses you service. So now you are stuck miles and miles away from any succor because this individual would have the right to refuse your business?

    Example 2: You live in a small town with one grocery store, and the next nearest is in a town an hours drive away. This store owner doesn't like you for whatever personal reason and refuses you business. Now every time you want groceries you have to drive an hour more and the same distance back. Meanwhile, do you really think the other citizens are going to boycott this store and make the same drive every time they want groceries?

    Congress has the right to enact laws regarding commerce, and this would include laws instructing American businesses to treat all potential customers equally. Individually, if a customer is disruptive in some way the law allows the business owner to refuse service; but it would be unreasonable to deny service to anyone that you don't know simply because you have a personal prejudice against "all his kind."

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    A private business is a private business but if they open their doors to the public in any fashion then they must open their doors to the entire public and accept all who come equally. That is how the law reads and it is absolutely morally correct and socialistically justified..
    Stossel is a sophomoric whining twit who like most libertarians has the simplistic and short sighted, idealistic morality of a ten year old.
    This idea that the free market should rule the social morality of business's is childishly naive hogwash.
    For decades, in the Jim Crow south, businesses that practiced racial discrimination were sure they would more than make up for the black patronage lost with an allegiance of sympathetic racists... and they did. The "good ole' boy" network throughout the south kept segregation active and thriving in spite of the loss of black patronage these scum brought on themselves.
    If the civil rights act had not forced desegregation and and end to racial discrimination it would still be the law and practice in many southern states.
    It disgusts me to think that anyone would even consider weakening the Civil Rights Act by any manor or degree.
    The swine racism and immoral thuggery that made the Civil Rights Act necessary is still there just under the surface, like auto body rot under a new paint job,just waiting to emerge.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Why are liberals so authoritarian, forcing people to do things they don't want to?
    Why are libertarians so sympathetic to the racist swine who practiced segregation and discrimination for decades before the Civil Rights Act?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post


    Everyone has the right to be a douche.
    Correct ... Everyone has the right to be a douche ... but they do not have the the right to PRACTICE their douche-baggery when it interferes with the Civil Rights of others Americans

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