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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Allowing people to exercise their rights can never be unequal unless you fail to allow all to exercise such rights. Saying to me that this individual will not allow all entry to his property is not inequality as no one except the owner had access to that property by default as I have already pointed out. You just wish to exercise an exception to the rule of property and by doing so you are guilty of creating inequality.
    Again, history begs to differ with you. I fully understand what you are saying, but know how it played out in history, the reality of that train if thought. There's was inequity, inequality in the results, the reality.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    So a particular group of individuals. And why do these particular people have any authority over everyone else? What gives them the the right to initiate aggression against their fellow man?



    So it's not a suggestion? It is, contrary to what you said before, a threat?
    Surely you know how laws come about, representative government and the will of the people? I'm not sure what you think playing dumb accomplishes.

    A penalty is a penalty. Nothing more. Same with every other kind of law. Don't exaggerate.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Surely you know how laws come about, representative government and the will of the people? I'm not sure what you think playing dumb accomplishes.
    "The" people? Clearly, you can't mean every person. You must be referring to a particular group of individuals. How do these particular people acquire authority over everyone else?


    A penalty is a penalty. Nothing more. Same with every other kind of law. Don't exaggerate.
    So you acknowledge that these individuals are indeed initiating violence (a penalty) against others.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    "The" people? Clearly, you can't mean every person. You must be referring to a particular group of individuals. How do these particular people acquire authority over everyone else?




    So you acknowledge that these individuals are indeed initiating violence (a penalty) against others.
    Like I said, playing dumb doesn't help you. The people, those who voted and supported these changes to the law. It included many not involved in civil rights, but who eventually saw the injustice.

    A penalty, not aggression. I told early on to tone it down to what it was.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like I said, playing dumb doesn't help you. The people, those who voted and supported these changes to the law. It included many not involved in civil rights, but who eventually saw the injustice.
    But you are surely talking about not all the people in a society but SOME of the people. How is it that the particular individuals acquire authority over other individuals?

    A penalty, not aggression. I told early on to tone it down to what it was.
    If a person says, "You must do X, or else I will seize you", this can't be anything but aggression. I can't "tone it down", because it is what it is, the initiation of aggression. Why do you think such aggression is ethically justified?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, history begs to differ with you. I fully understand what you are saying, but know how it played out in history, the reality of that train if thought. There's was inequity, inequality in the results, the reality.
    Perhaps the problem is that we are just using the word "inequality" differently. I don't see anything wrong with a situation where the parties all have the same rights. Yes, some business excluded certain people, but all property works this way and all property owners have the power to exclude who they desire from the use of their property.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Absolutely not.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Absolutely not.
    So you're fine with stepping on peoples rights? Why?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So you're fine with stepping on peoples rights? Why?
    Because those folks were fine with completely obliterating my rights much more than whatever rights you sacrificed by serving us.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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