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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's not one person, it's us as a people.
    I'm not sure I understand who you mean by "us". Obviously it's not everybody, so you must be referring to a particular group of individuals. Then I wonder what gives these individuals authority over all the other people in society.

    It's no a threat, it's the way cooperative living is achieved.
    So it's a suggestion? If so, that's fine. And then people can serve whomever they want, taking (or not taking) the suggestion.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I'm not sure I understand who you mean by "us". Obviously it's not everybody, so you must be referring to a particular group of individuals. Then I wonder what gives these individuals authority over all the other people in society.



    So it's a suggestion? If so, that's fine. And then people can serve whomever they want, taking (or not taking) the suggestion.
    A majority, the people as a whole, the citizenry who voted. Us.

    Frankly, people do defy it everyday. But proven discrimination, like with in law, can see a fine levied. And rightly so. The same is so many get away with the segregation.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And they abused that badly. Like most laws, they come about in reaction to something. In this case, it was fought for due to very hateful behavior.
    They can not abuse it badly. Property owners have the right to refuse whoever they please, and so by definition it doesn't matter how people feel about it.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They can not abuse it badly. Property owners have the right to refuse whoever they please, and so by definition it doesn't matter how people feel about it.
    History shows abuse. Have you read about the civil rights movement?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    History shows abuse. Have you read about the civil rights movement?

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    So how is showing me an example of trespassing working towards your goals here? How is it abuse on the businesses part when four men refuse to leave the property when asked to do so? Of course, I remember this logic well from my fifth grade school teacher and I have to say even then it didn't make sense.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So how is showing me an example of trespassing working towards your goals here? How is it abuse on the businesses part when four men refuse to leave the property when asked to do so? Of course, I remember this logic well from my fifth grade school teacher and I have to say even then it didn't make sense.
    You may have missed the message. Equality.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You may have missed the message. Equality.
    If everyones right to control access to their property is protected that is equality in the fullest sense of the word. In the end, all you need to protect to have equality is the rights of the people be that their life, their liberty, or their property. If you do that you have equality.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If everyones right to control access to their property is protected that is equality in the fullest sense of the word. In the end, all you need to protect to have equality is the rights of the people be that their life, their liberty, or their property. If you do that you have equality.
    Again, it led to inequality, separate but unequal. The world today is better because they largely ended that segregation. It is wrong headed to see it as you present above.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, it led to inequality, separate but unequal. The world today is better because they largely ended that segregation. It is wrong headed to see it as you present above.
    Allowing people to exercise their rights can never be unequal unless you fail to allow all to exercise such rights. Saying to me that this individual will not allow all entry to his property is not inequality as no one except the owner had access to that property by default as I have already pointed out. You just wish to exercise an exception to the rule of property and by doing so you are guilty of creating inequality.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    A majority
    So a particular group of individuals. And why do these particular people have any authority over everyone else? What gives them the the right to initiate aggression against their fellow man?

    Frankly, people do defy it everyday. But proven discrimination, like with in law, can see a fine levied. And rightly so. The same is so many get away with the segregation.
    So it's not a suggestion? It is, contrary to what you said before, a threat?

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