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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    And who puts the various decision makers in power??? The People. If we don't like what they're doing we can always throw them out and get someone else in there that will do what we want - whatever that may be.
    we put people in positions of power to run the government, we dont put them there to tell the people what to do.

    government is made up of people...people with there own ideas, they cannot force their ideas on you when they were not elected, why do you believe becuase they are elected this gives them power over you to force those ideas?

    their is no government authority over the people in the constitution.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    What state in their right mind would allow a neighboring state to send pollution downstream, whether it's in water or air? They wouldn't. The result is that no pollution is possible, which is also impossible if we want to keep any industry in America at all. Obviously, the onus will fall on the federal government to resolve the issue of pollution.

    You should use logic a little more instead of being obstinate.

    are you not able to understand anything, if one state polluted another state that would be unlawful, and that would bring in the U.S. court system........as listed in the constitution "controversies between states"

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that is becuase the people in power will always embellish themselves with more power.
    It doesn't help the. Courts to give the president or congress power. Sorry, but that doesn't explain it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    People and businesses effect not only interstate commerce but foreign commerce, as well, by what they produce. This should be obvious to anyone who has thought more than half a minute in the most simple terms of commodities, if nothing else, but it also applies to most goods and some services.
    people and business do not make commerce laws, ....... the problem under the articles, becuase states were at war with each other....business was not at war, the commerce was turned over to the federal government, for commerce AMONG the states, not inside them



    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The states can't make laws about interstate commerce, plain and simple. The states can't make laws about international commerce, plain and simple. Only Uncle Sam can do either of those things. Quit being dense.

    you have no clue do you......

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It doesn't help the. Courts to give the president or congress power. Sorry, but that doesn't explain it.
    your not understanding.

    every person no matter who they are is self-serving, which means they will always do things which work in their own interest, the founders talk of this, that is why they placed limitations on themselves with enumerated powers.

    they knew if they had no limit on them, they would turn into wolves among sheep.

    all people who find themselves int he halls of congress or where they are with power, always look to increase that power.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    your not understanding.

    every person no matter who they are is self-serving, which means they will always do things which work in their own interest, the founders talk of this, that is why they placed limitations on themselves with enumerated powers.

    they knew if they had no limit on them, they would turn into wolves among sheep.

    all people who find themselves int he halls of congress or where they are with power, always look to increase that power.
    I understand this perfectly, and point to our checks and balances. The courts have no such dog in the fight.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I understand this perfectly, and point to our checks and balances. The courts have no such dog in the fight.
    oh, even the court thru there decisions, never increase the government powers?

    you know as well as i the court is 5 -4 in favor of conservatives, ...so it pits one side against the other, and its not supposed to have a side at all.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    oh, even the court thru there decisions, never increase the government powers?

    you know as well as i the court is 5 -4 in favor of conservatives, ...so it pits one side against the other, and its not supposed to have a side at all.
    Pay attention. I said they had no motivation to do so.

    And they really have a side. One may tend to think more liberally, and another more conservatively, but not sides. I suspect they have very interesting debates in private. But always they base their argument in law. While you don't understand how complicated language can be, they do.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Pay attention. I said they had no motivation to do so.

    And they really have a side. One may tend to think more liberally, and another more conservatively, but not sides. I suspect they have very interesting debates in private. But always they base their argument in law. While you don't understand how complicated language can be, they do.
    LOL.....the constitution is a very easy to read document, as when it was first put to paper by Gouverneur Morris

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    LOL.....the constitution is a very easy to read document, as when it was first put to paper by Gouverneur Morris
    Have you ever heard of the communication triangle? Your are factually wrong to view any document as being so simple as to avod all debate.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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