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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    all you want to tell me is government can go outside the the constitution , if some judge says it OK, and that is not correct.
    Nope. I'm saying it hasn't. And I've linked rather extensive explanation.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Limited. It isn't either / or, btw, so this tactic won't by pass history.
    why is it not limited since the founders say it is limited?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope. I'm saying it hasn't. And I've linked rather extensive explanation.
    government is far outside the constitution, you in denial, becuase you want the government serve your wants and desires.

    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;-

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people,
    it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government." -- Patrick Henry

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    why is it not limited since the founders say it is limited?
    I said limited. Read the entire thing. But it's a large document with amendments within the context of history. You're being too simple in your reading. But I've pointed this out before.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    government is far outside the constitution, you in denial, becuase you want the government serve your wants and desires.

    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;-
    Your novice opinion simply doesn't hold up.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I said limited. Read the entire thing. But it's a large document with amendments within the context of history. You're being too simple in your reading. But I've pointed this out before.
    do those amendment alter the powers of congress in article 1 section 8 ..no. ....as i stated before my copy of the constitution contains all changes, and were the amendments have made changes to said constitution they are written in red, like article 1 section 2.

    nothing in article 1 section 8 has been changed, no new powers thru a constitutional amendment has been made

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Your novice opinion simply doesn't hold up.

    this is not just be saying this but plenty of people.

    what does the clause say........congress has NO legislative authority our of d.c. or unless the state gives them approval for federal buildings.....they have no authority on state or private land.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    do those amendment alter the powers of congress in article 1 section 8 ..no. ....as i stated before my copy of the constitution contains all changes, and were the amendments have made changes to said constitution they are written in red, like article 1 section 2.

    nothing in article 1 section 8 has been changed, no new powers thru a constitutional amendment has been made
    In the sense that they demand more of the federal government, yes. The courts Explained it fairly well. And history shows how we got there.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this is not just be saying this but plenty of people.

    what does the clause say........congress has NO legislative authority our of d.c. or unless the state gives them approval for federal buildings.....they have no authority on state or private land.
    Yes, plenty of novices. I know.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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