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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    but statutory laws....no... they don't override the constitutional law/ rights of people or business, unless the law could show what a person or business is doing could violate the rights of others
    The constitutional rights of business?!?
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The constitutional rights of business?!?
    not what I said....but I will take it you think that is exactly what I meant.......next I will speak on a lower level

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    not what I said....but I will take it you think that is exactly what I meant.......
    Then you should be more clear in your posts.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Then you should be more clear in your posts.
    i have been very clear..........a person or business has rights.

    and government has no authority using statue laws, to take away those rights which are listed in the Constitution.

    only criminal activity or activity which could damage a person physically or his property.....can ones rights be curtailed

    government has no authority to curtail the rights of people, becuase they dont like......[which is an emotional feeling]... how they exercise them.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i have been very clear..........a person or business has rights.

    and government has no authority using statue laws, to take away those rights which are listed in the Constitution.

    only criminal activity or activity which could damage a person physically or his property.....can ones rights be curtailed

    government has no authority to curtail the rights of people, becuase they dont like......[which is an emotional feeling]...how they exercise them.
    The constitution lists no rights for businesses. Again, I laugh at your false assumptions.


    Regardless of your previous post on this line of discussion it seems I DID get your meaning right the first time and, considering this post, you should be ashamed at that previous response implying I was somehow misreading you.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The constitution lists no rights for businesses. Again, I laugh at your false assumptions.


    Regardless of your previous post on this line of discussion it seems I DID get your meaning right the first time and, considering this post, you should be ashamed at that previous response implying I was somehow misreading you.
    so your saying a business, cannot be secure in its property or papers, and governments, even other people can go thru its books and use its property at will.

    so your saying business has no right to voice it opinions of anything even politics of the government, that government can silence business and shut them up.

    business have not right to a day in court, then they are guilty , whenever accused of wrong doing by anyone.

    laugh?, no i look at you and see silliness of your part.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    so your saying a business, cannot be secure in its property or papers, and governments, even other people can go thru its books and use its property at will.
    so your saying business has no right to voice it opinions of anything even politics of the government, that government can silence business and shut them up.
    business have not right to a day in court, then they are guilty , whenever accused of wrong doing by anyone.
    laugh?, no i look at you and see silliness of your part.
    I didn't say any of that, I simply stated it's not in the constitution. You're the one adding all the extra baggage here.

    Society has extended many protections to business but that doesn't mean, in YOUR vocabulary, that those protections are somehow "natural rights" - and, quit frankly, you continue to look silly trying to turn a business into a person since even on it's face that's a false argument. It's sad, really ...
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I didn't say any of that, I simply stated it's not in the constitution. You're the one adding all the extra baggage here.

    Society has extended many protections to business but that doesn't mean, in YOUR vocabulary, that those protections are somehow "natural rights" - and, quit frankly, you continue to look silly trying to turn a business into a person since even on it's face that's a false argument. It's sad, really ...
    i dont believe i have applied [natural] to business, like a corporation.

    a single owner of a business has his natural rights over this property.

    so again your wrong in your assessment.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    1 USC 1 - Words denoting number, gender, and so forth | Title 1 - General Provisions | U.S. Code | LII / Legal Information Institute



    1 USC 1 - Words denoting number, gender, and so forth


    In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, unless the context indicates otherwise—
    words importing the singular include and apply to several persons, parties, or things;
    words importing the plural include the singular;
    words importing the masculine gender include the feminine as well;
    words used in the present tense include the future as well as the present;
    the words “insane” and “insane person” shall include every idiot, insane person, and person non compos mentis;
    the words “person” and “whoever” include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies, as well as individuals;
    “officer” includes any person authorized by law to perform the duties of the office;
    “signature” or “subscription” includes a mark when the person making the same intended it as such;
    “oath” includes affirmation, and “sworn” includes affirmed;
    “writing” includes printing and typewriting and reproductions of visual symbols by photographing, multigraphing, mimeographing, manifolding, or otherwise.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i dont believe i have applied [natural] to business, like a corporation.

    a single owner of a business has his natural rights over this property.

    so again your wrong in your assessment.
    So you think the rights in the constitution aren't "natural rights"? It's good to see some of you guys finally coming to your senses.


    And he can operate a business as a bigot all he wants as long as he doesn't license as an OTTP business because that would be misrepresentation and deception.
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