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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    See the court cases ...
    The answer is no, btw.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Exactly, that's the entire point. A corporation cannot enact rules over land before that land is owned. Government can--through coercion.
    A city government can't do anything about any land before it's incorporated. The act of incorporation is the same as the corporation buying it's land. Quit being dense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    No, that is my argument. A government can come in and claim dominion over land without agreement of everyone currently there. A corporation cannot.
    And tell me, how would someone surrounded by corporate land get off their own property without the corporation's permission?


    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    No. Another option is accepting that an institution of coercion may be a "necessary evil." You've never heard the saying that government is "a necessary evil"? What you are trying to do is make this into an argument about anarchy. Its not. Its an argument about the nature of government, regardless of whether you think it should exist or not.
    So now you're saying that "initiating violence" is OK? I'll be sure to quote you on that ...
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The answer is no, btw.
    The courts seemed to think there was damage. You'll excuse me if I take their word over yours ...
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The answer is no, btw.
    The courts laid out very specific harm. That's what happens when you don't read what is presented to you. But then again, it is almost impossible to teach someone something that person THINKS he or she already knows.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The courts seemed to think there was damage. You'll excuse me if I take their word over yours ...
    Feel free to share how not doing business with someone causes bodily harm.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Feel free to share how not doing business with someone causes bodily harm.

    There are many types of harm. The harm has been spelled out. You don't address it because that would require you abandoning this silliness.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There are many types of harm. The harm has been spelled out. You don't address it because that would require you abandoning this silliness.
    That is because you don't have any harms.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Feel free to share how not doing business with someone causes bodily harm.
    That wasn't the only part of the question. Quit being dishonest.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    That wasn't the only part of the question. Quit being dishonest.
    Hmm?? What was the other part?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is because you don't have any harms.
    I'm the one who has given evidence. You hid from it. Played games but did not address it at all.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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