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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Non-discrimination laws violate private property, the constitutional right of association, and are based on an expansive and improper mutation of the commerce clause
    Nonsense. They just don't allow business to discriminate. You don't have to be friends with or associate with anyone you don't want to. This has been covered already, complete with a definition of associate.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nonsense. They just don't allow business to discriminate. You don't have to be friends with or associate with anyone you don't want to. This has been covered already, complete with a definition of associate.
    Yeah your definition is not one I agree to. There was nothing in the commerce clause as written that delegated that power to the federal government. LIke most of the crap FDR did, he just pulled it out of his ass



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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Yeah your definition is not one I agree to. There was nothing in the commerce clause as written that delegated that power to the federal government. LIke most of the crap FDR did, he just pulled it out of his ass
    We can clearly follow how it all came about. The history is there for all to see, and it was the right move. The bigot loses nothing; the citizen only gets what is proper. So, there is no reason to be upset.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the preamble to the bill of rights ... <snip - no evidence>
    And that pretty much sums up any evidence you have for it being passed as law.

    For further discussion and a reminder of your last failure at proving this assertion please see ...

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You can sell your car in your driveway and no one will care. It's not a crime - try again.
    I thought you were arguing that people required licences to sell things on their own property. Now you're saying you don't care what if people sell things on their own property?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I thought you were arguing that people required licences to sell things on their own property. Now you're saying you don't care what if people sell things on their own property?
    No, I was arguing that businesses require a license for many reasons, which has nothing to do with what you personally do in your private life.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    No, I was arguing that businesses require a license for many reasons, which has nothing to do with what you personally do in your private life.
    I'm really only concerned with restrictions that you want to place on people. As long as people are free to engage in trade then we have no disagreement.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I'm really only concerned with restrictions that you want to place on people. As long as people are free to engage in trade then we have no disagreement.
    People are, businesses aren't.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    People are, businesses aren't.
    That's fine. I only object to restrictions placed upon the actions of people.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    That's fine. I only object to restrictions placed upon the actions of people.
    Which means Joe's Diner is a business, and not just Joe.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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