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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Anyone or anything anywhere can petition our government. That doesn't make them persons any more than not being able to torture animals make them persons.
    the constitution states a person, may petition the government, which is in the bill of rights, now how do unions, business, specical interest groups, get to petition government?..........becuase government makes laws, allowing them to, by considering them a person.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Did you read ..?
    read, read what?, what are you pointing to, article 1 section 8 in a long section,....be specific about what your taking about,

    state the duty, and how it gives government the authority, will you do that for me please?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    That has nothing to do with the EPA. If you read instead of preach you'd learn more.
    excuse me!...your the one who dived into the waters of pollution........not me.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the constitution states a person, may petition the government, which is in the bill of rights, now how do unions, business, specical interest groups, get to petition government?..........becuase government makes laws, allowing them to, by considering them a person.
    Then obviously the country of Mexico is also a person?

    I think you've run out of arguments for this strand, dude. You're pushing the limits of fantasy at this point.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Like the infamous Preamble to the Bill of Rights that you insist is part of the Constitution but yet you cannot present any actual evidence that it was ever ratified by the needed number of states?

    Yeah.... sure .... whatever.
    still living in denial.....even after i posted pics of the actual document ratified with the preamble on them.

    which by the way you wanted to see, and when i produced them you stated, well the preamble is not part of the ratified bill......

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Then obviously the country of Mexico is also a person?

    I think you've run out of arguments for this strand, dude. You're pushing the limits of fantasy at this point.
    do you not know already governments of other nations, are petitioning our government.........becuase government has made federal laws, allowing it.......

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    excuse me!...your the one who dived into the waters of pollution........not me.
    You get 3/3 for that!

    Read 'em and weep ...
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    we know very well the EPA, and other institutions of government have crossed on to state and private lands, without consent...these are property rights violations
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1061999275


    And what you quoted has nothing to do with those "waters".
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    read, read what?, what are you pointing to, article 1 section 8 in a long section,....be specific about what your taking about,

    state the duty, and how it gives government the authority, will you do that for me please?
    I've already told you what. Did you go back and read the post? Apparently not or it would be plain as day.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I've already told you what. Did you go back and read the post? Apparently not or it would be plain as day.

    this around about way of yours is tiring, you have stated nothing for me to read, you just pointed to the article 1 section 8 and said read.....and i said read what its a long section....read what?

    your continued, ways of coming up with nothing, and starting topics, and then, acting, has thought i started them is,......showing your inability to post any concrete statements.....

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this around about way of yours is tiring, you have stated nothing for me to read, you just pointed to the article 1 section 8 and said read.....and i said read what its a long section....read what?

    your continued, ways of coming up with nothing, and starting topics, and then, acting, has thought i started them is,......showing your inability to post any concrete statements.....
    I'm sure you disapprove when others don't answer the same questions over and over for you. I referenced a post and A1S8. That's all you should need to reestablish the conversation we have already had. If it's not good enough then I guess you don't care much about the conversation.
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