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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually the poster seems to have earned an A plus and learned his lessons very well.
    anyone, who supports large government with unlimited power, and unconstitutional activity which you would approve of, your going to side with...however i have constitutional law.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    As far as air traffic it pretty much does, yes. I believe the lower limit is 500' when it's not near an airport, then it depends on where it is in relation to the airport. I could be wrong on that 500' - my pilot friend died many years ago.
    can you give the the authority where government derives that power in its duties?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I really have no idea what you are talking about because we do not have such things in our Constitution.
    we dont have any right that gives a person a material good or a service...now if people makes rights as you say they do, then why have they not created such a right already?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    anyone, who supports large government with unlimited power, and unconstitutional activity which you would approve of, your going to side with...however i have constitutional law.
    Actually I support
    *** the smallest government necessary
    *** the US Constitution
    *** very limited powers as listed in the Constitution
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    we dont have any right that gives a person a material good or a service...now if people makes rights as you say they do, then why have they not created such a right already?
    You are asking me to explain why something that does not exist does not exist. I really have no idea. I try to stick with debating what does exist
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    only when it comes to reading libertarianese.
    Well what words, phrases, or concepts do you fail to understand?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually I support
    *** the smallest government necessary
    *** the US Constitution
    *** very limited powers as listed in the Constitution
    oh, do you support the EPA,NLRB, HUD, DEPT EDUCATION, to name a few....becuase they are all unconstitutional.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Your examples are not convincing. You fail to show how not having a piece of paper harms anyone. Actions harm people, not being without a piece of paper.
    That's like saying no one is safer on the roads just because everyone has to carry a little plastic card with them when they drive.

    It's the actions and requirements behind the piece of paper on the wall of a business or the little plastic card in the driver's pocket that makes the difference. You know that as well as I do.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Well what words, phrases, or concepts do you fail to understand?
    this

    If a person commits the "crime" of trading without a permission slip, who is the victim?
    What is the crime of trading?

    What is a permission slip?

    What does any of that nonsense have to do with having a victim or not?

    Again, just talk like a normal person for heavens sake.

    I googled CRIME OF TRADING and PERMISSION SLIP and got nothing helpful to explain this Von Mises Institute double talk. It was all about insider trading and needing mommies and daddies signature to go somewhere if I am a kiddie.

    So the problem is in your terminology.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You are asking me to explain why something that does not exist does not exist. I really have no idea. I try to stick with debating what does exist
    really, then i will ask a question of you, ..so you can find understanding.

    can the people of the u.s. create a right to food?....which is a commodity

    now according to you , they can, becuase you say people make there own rights.......so can they?

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