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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    oh, where is the court ruling you have a right to be served?
    I linked one that dealt with. You should read what I link.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I linked one that dealt with. You should read what I link.
    well please post the link again here.

    becuase i would love to see the right to be served.......imagine a commodity right.......how unconstitutional it is!

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Only if you ignore the courts and civil rights. I wouldn't call that bring successful.
    The courts ignored the property rights of business owners. I'm not ignoring civil rights here as only the business owner has the right to access and use the property and like it is with anyone else they get to decide who they do commerce with.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The courts ignored the property rights of business owners. I'm not ignoring civil rights here as only the business owner has the right to access and use the property and like it is with anyone else they get to decide who they do commerce with.
    Simply not true. There are rules each person in business must follow. This is only one.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Simply not true. There are rules each person in business must follow. This is only one.
    Yes, and we are debating the legitimacy of the rule.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, and we are debating the legitimacy of the rule.
    Again the court case :

    The power of Congress in this field is broad and sweeping; where it keeps within its sphere and violates no express constitutional limitation it has been the rule of this Court, going back almost to the founding days of the Republic, not to interfere. The Civil Rights Act of 1964, as here applied, we find to be plainly appropriate in the resolution of what the Congress found to be a national commercial problem of the first magnitude. We find it in no violation of any express limitations of the Constitution and we therefore declare it valid.

    The judgment is therefore

    Reversed.

    [For concurring opinion of MR. JUSTICE BLACK, see ante, p. 268.]

    [For concurring opinion of MR. JUSTICE Douglas, see ante, p. 279.]

    [For concurring opinion of MR. JUSTICE GOLDBERG, see ante, p. 291.]

    Katzenbach v. McClung

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again the court case :

    The power of Congress in this field is broad and sweeping; where it keeps within its sphere and violates no express constitutional limitation it has been the rule of this Court, going back almost to the founding days of the Republic, not to interfere. The Civil Rights Act of 1964, as here applied, we find to be plainly appropriate in the resolution of what the Congress found to be a national commercial problem of the first magnitude. We find it in no violation of any express limitations of the Constitution and we therefore declare it valid.
    And they're wrong. The commerce clause is only to settle trade disputes between the listed members and property can not be acted on for such a reason.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And they're wrong. The commerce clause is only to settle trade disputes between the listed members and property can not be acted on for such a reason.
    And yet, those who count disagree with you. Shocking.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Simply not true. There are rules each person in business must follow. This is only one.
    you are correct to a point, it is the duty of government to protect people from harm, meaning their rights not be infringed becuase of a crime, or thru a health and safety issue ..like spoiled food, of dangerous equipment, these areas the government has authority to act, when you volatile statutory law on your property.

    however statutory law does not override constitutional laws.

    you cannot make laws, which tell a property owner how to treat a customer, morality or social, becuase government has no authority in those areas....the government is not a moral ,social decider,.....if it was.. it could tell people how to behave, what to drink ,eat, how to raise children, and if does not have that power.

    or constitution is not a religious , social or moral document on the people

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And they're wrong. The commerce clause is only to settle trade disputes between the listed members and property can not be acted on for such a reason.
    the commerce clause is for government to regulate commerce, (keep it regular) among the states or members, ......but never inside the state themselves.

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