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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    But it does. We are not an anarchy. All societies need rules to live by, and not just the big ones like don't murder. We live peacefully because of these laws. We went through a lot to get them. No one just up and threw them out there. Instead, suffering people fought for them, won them, and from people who didn't know how to live civilly.
    Allowing private property owners to discriminate does not = anarchy. That is an enormous slippery slope fallacy.
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    show me in the U.S. CONSTITUTION WHERE IT SAYS, .........A CITIZEN SHALL NOT!

    citizens CANNOT violate the u.s. constitution its impossible!
    Read the court case.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Allowing private property owners to discriminate does not = anarchy. That is an enormous slippery slope fallacy.
    If that's what you read, you missed the point. Rights come with responsibility. We are not free to do anything. there are restrictions, and I explained those. As we grew, more was needed for peaceful co-existence. There is a history behind everything that happened. And it was done with our consent.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If that's what you read, you missed the point. Rights come with responsibility. We are not free to do anything. there are restrictions, and I explained those. As we grew, more was needed for peaceful co-existence. There is a history behind everything that happened. And it was done with our consent.
    that is not what is being discussed.....your rights can be infringed by another citizen....BUT it can be ONLY thru criminal action......a citizen cannot violate constitutional law...becuase constitutional law does not apply to u.s. citizens....it applies to governments only.....why is that so hard for you?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Read the court case.

    read the u.s constitution.....supreme law!

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that is not what is being discussed.....your rights can be infringed by another citizen....BUT it can be ONLY thru criminal action......a citizen cannot violate constitutional law...becuase constitutional law does not apply to u.s. citizens....it applies to governments only.....why is that so hard for you?
    Simply isn't true. Read history and the court case. You have too narrow an understanding.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    read the u.s constitution.....supreme law!
    I don't stop at one, I read them all. You should too.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Simply isn't true. Read history and the court case. You have too narrow an understanding.
    read the constitution, where are citizens addressed in the constitution, how does a document which creates the federal government and delegates duties to that government , equate to limiting the people?

    where are the people addressed in the constitution which places limits on them!!!

    nothing narrow at all........the constitution does no apply to the american people...at all!

    anyone who says it does does not know the basics on the constitution, becuase the founders say its applies to the federal government only , and then the states after the civil war...but never the people..only governments

    again your logic sayS that people who violate the rights of other people thru the constitution go to jail................HOW COME THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT GO TO JAIL IF IT VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTION?...and it has
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't stop at one, I read them all. You should too.
    dont stop at one?.....do you have any more supreme law, besides the constitution, BOR

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    dont stop at one?.....do you have any more supreme law, besides the constitution, BOR
    We have history. The civil rights movement. The 14th amendment and how the courts see, what its intent was, and what was won during the civil rights movement. You're just not listening well.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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