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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Read the court case and learn history. Then get back to me.

    That doesn't answer my question.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That doesn't answer my question.
    Actually they do. I gave them to you to answer that question. Until you understand why, we're spinning our wheels. Learn more and you might do a better job.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're right; you can close up shop. But outside a few minor exceptions, if you choose to open shop, don't discriminate. it's really easy.
    I agree, don't discriminate. But the law should not prevent you from being an idiot and discriminating, which I have been arguing, and which you haven't refuted at all.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    I agree, don't discriminate. But the law should not prevent you from being an idiot and discriminating, which I have been arguing, and which you haven't refuted at all.
    Not doing so had serious consequneces on those discriminated against. Far worse than these poor souls must endure, making profit off those they hate. So, I'd shed no tears. History tells us how we got here.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually they do. I gave them to you to answer that question. Until you understand why, we're spinning our wheels. Learn more and you might do a better job.
    History doesn't answer my question.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    But they are still open to the public in the sense that anyone can apply to be a member...And that still doesn't answer the question. Why should they be allowed to discriminate? Are you saying they shouldn't?
    Because everyone is aware there are requirements to be a customer. It's not OTTP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    But he doesn't have that option under the law. He can't just have a regular store and say no blacks. They are required to be open to the public regardless of whether or not they want to be.
    I'm not sure that's true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    No you didn't. If you thought you did, it was incredibly unclear. Simply state "the definition of public is...." that's all I'm asking.
    Let me ask you this, who do you think is not allowed to enter a government building or a post office?
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not doing so had serious consequneces on those discriminated against. Far worse than these poor souls must endure, making profit off those they hate. So, I'd shed no tears. History tells us how we got here.
    Ok, I get that. It doesn't refute my point though.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Because everyone is aware there are requirements to be a customer. It's not OTTP.
    That doesn't answer the question. I asked you why and you basically just said "because." Why should one person in an exchange be held to different standards than the other?

    I'm not sure that's true.
    It is. Otherwise all of the racist stores when public accommodations law passed would have just said they weren't public accommodations. Literally nothing would have changed, and the law would be utterly useless.

    Let me ask you this, who do you think is not allowed to enter a government building or a post office?
    The distinction between government and private property owners has been made several times by multiple posters in this thread. The government cannot discriminate. It must serve all citizens equally, by nature of being the government of the citizens. That is what equality under the law means. Private property owners owe no such thing to anyone. They should be able to allow anyone who they want on their property. Otherwise, it is not truly their property.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    All you have to do is click on the little double-arrow icon next the quoted poster's name to find what post the quote came from ...
    ok.. i clicked on those arrows and i didn't see that quote from myself.

    so you made this quote up yourself, and posted my name next to it...........

    so its a false quote..your sticking my name too!

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You've answered your own question.
    terrible reply, becuase you have nothing.

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