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Thread: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    next you will say you have a right to determine the business decor.
    Now that you mention it, OTTP restaurants are required to have working bathrooms for their customer's use.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Not in Missouri and a lot of other states. If you blow a tire on the freeway and hit another car, you're not going to be charged with a crime but you will sure as hell pay to fix the car you hit. If for some reason you don't pay then you might be charged with the crime of operating a motor vehicle without the required insurance coverage or cash bond.
    who taught you law?

    if a tire blows becuase of things out of my control, i have not committed a criminal act at all.......and i will not go to jail.

    if i do something on the road that is reckless, and i cause an accident, that is criminal..i go to jail, and can be sentenced to prison.

    my insurance will have to pay for the cost of the damages, if i dont have insurance, and i refuse to pay, then a judges can throw me in jail and make it criminal.

    for not following the judges ruling on the damages.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Now that you mention it, OTTP restaurants are required to have working bathrooms for their customer's use.
    right...because that's a HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE!..which i have mentioned already.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    what does declaratory and restrictive clauses mean to you?.......the constitution and the bill of rights are composed of clauses.

    when the bill of rights was written it applied to the federal government only.........then who is the declaratory and restrictive clauses TOO?.......the federal government, and becuase the USSC ruled after the civl war states must honor the bill of right also
    Which in no way supports your claim that the Preamble to the BoR is a legal document.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Which in no way supports your claim that the Preamble to the BoR is a legal document.

    the whole document is a legal document, as is the constitution with its preamble

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    I think Americans should stop talking about race SO much.

    There is only one race - the human race.

    Calling someone a different race just because they have more or less melanin in their skin is asinine.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    please tell me how i can violate a persons rights, ...if i dont commit a crime........i am waiting for this...becuase its going to be good, for you to try and explain that!
    A business is not the same as a person. I exist but a business doesn't really exist until it's taken certain legal steps like licensing or incorporation.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    A business is not the same as a person. I exist but a business doesn't really exist until it's taken certain legal steps like licensing or incorporation.
    a business has rights as a person does, to prevent the abuses of government....if they had no rights government could steamroll over them and do as they like.

    business would be at government mercy, and government could force them to do anything government wanted.

    when a business is licensed, it is for the purpose of preventing misrepresentation, to prevent fraud, to adhere to health and safety codes. to protect the people and property from harm.

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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    what a disease?

    you have got to be kidding.....

    so this gives government the authority to trample on the property rights of the people?

    The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

    Congress of the United States
    begun and held at the City of New-York, on
    Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

    THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.


    this means the government cannot create any law which infringes on the rights of the people, and there is a right to property.
    Are you saying that the Govt. can do nothing even if you are spreading a disease that can cripple our nation? That's just preposterous.
    The racist behavior of a private business spreads racism to the populace and the contagion must be stopped at the source. If you want to be a racist you must cover your mouth when you speak in public too. Just ask Paula Deen. And no we won't stop until it is gone, it has a nasty habit of popping up whenever we let our guard down.
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    Re: Do You Agree with John Stossel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    it was ratified by the legislators of the states, ...i have the pictures to prove it.
    You can go back to this thread with any new evidence you may have. I'll give you the first post of the contention so you can review all the pertinent posts ...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1061879914


    Until you can prove the Preamble to the BoR was ratified by the States, your claims are nothing but hot air. Since we spent sooooo much time on this before, please go back and use the other thread so we can dispense with all the inaccurate claims instead of repeating them.
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