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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Is it OK to sleep with a hooker if she's drunk or under the effects of drugs?
    If she's drunk or high enough that she can't give consent anymore, then no, it's not okay.
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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Chris, here's my response to all of that ...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1061952480


    To which I can now add that the first statistics about underage prostitution concentrated only on street kids, not the industry as a whole.
    Another thing is that he keeps mentioning children who were molested. Whether or not the industry is legal or illegal really has no bearing on whether or not someone was sexually assaulted as a child. Keeping prostitution illegal does not change those facts, and these women (or kids) are obviously still IN the industry even though it's illegal right now. So I don't understand the connection he is trying to make there. That damaged people might sell their bodies to make money? Okay, but keeping the industry illegal would certainly not change that sad fact.

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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Ask nicely and you shall receive...
    A link would be nice, so that I don't have to rely on just your own cherry-picked data. If you don't mind. Also, I see Canada being mentioned in there. Is this a Canadian or a US study? Just some of the reasons why I'd like a link to read the data on my own.

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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Another thing is that he keeps mentioning children who were molested. Whether or not the industry is legal or illegal really has no bearing on whether or not someone was sexually assaulted as a child. Keeping prostitution illegal does not change those facts, and these women (or kids) are obviously still IN the industry even though it's illegal right now. So I don't understand the connection he is trying to make there. That damaged people might sell their bodies to make money? Okay, but keeping the industry illegal would certainly not change that sad fact.
    How true. That's what most people against legalized prostitution seem to miss. This is the way it is now and unless something changes it will continue to stay that way. So there are only two choices that I see. One: If you're truly against prostitution and believe it's not voluntary then you need to eliminate the need for people to become and remain prostitutes. However, usually, the same people saying prostitution is wrong are the ones whining about welfare and minimum wage laws. LOL! The second option is to make it legal so it can be regulated and prostitutes can turn to the law to avoid abuse just like any other worker. That makes it safer for everyone and the community.
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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    But should it be that way? Should we really be allowed to take advantage of each other in such a way? I think we need to acknowledge that certain people in society are more vulnerable than others, and offer them some sort of protection.

    I think you are making the assumption that a person feels they were taken advantage of which may not be the case. With the money received they may have made for themselves a far better life then they otherwise would ever have had. They may be very happy with their decision.

    I believe any two adults of sound mind should be allowed to do anything they wish as long as it does not harm others.

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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    If she's drunk or high enough that she can't give consent anymore, then no, it's not okay.
    Why would people want to sleep with someone who's drunk anyway, whether the person is a prostitute or not? Are people really that hard up? I try to avoid drunk people personally. I find them obnoxious and annoying, of if they're really drunk, just plain disgusting.

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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    This is in direct response to the "should prostitution be legal" thread, and is intended to make you think. It surprises me how many of you answered "yes" to the question, this in spite of all the data which shows prostitutes suffer from a variety of diseases and psychological disorders - including heightened suicide rates - as a direct result of their profession.

    Therefore, you are saying it's OK to pay someone to harm themselves as long as both parties are consenting. Fine, but how far are you willing to take this logic?

    Here is a hypothetical question, answer it "yes" or "no."



    Suppose a sadistic billionaire went around offering poor people a million dollars each to have their eyes removed. The procedure would be carried out by a licensed plastic surgeon, under sedation, in a certified medical facility. Should that be legal? Both parties are consenting.

    What if the sadistic billionaire offered one of your parents, or your adult children, and they accepted? Should that be legal?

    What if the sadistic billionaire offered someone high on drugs, or a heavily addicted drug addict? What if they offered the elderly, or mentally impaired?

    Is it simply a case of two consenting adults involved in a financial transaction, or is there more to it? Is the sadistic billionaire taking advantage of the poor person's problems?
    Calm down Mr Grimm, we pay the military to harm itself. Albeit for a much more worthy cause. Well....maybe.
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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Yes to everything.
    to everything eh. So I can sell my childrens' eyes?

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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Giving up your eyes for money is immoral. Selling your body for money is immoral.
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    Not conforming to accepted standards of morality.

    Yeah, so what? What would legislation against any of your immoral acts accomplish?

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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Giving up your eyes for money is immoral. Selling your body for money is immoral.
    Well no one is saying you have to. But your definitions of morality cannot arbitrarily be held over everyone else. At base someone should be free to sell their eyes if they wanted to.
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